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How are the nootropic stacks going for you?

Good, doing alot of amino acid supplementation, some anti-depressants, some keytones, and plan on introducing ayurvedic next, also charging a vape battery and plan to try this vegetable glycerine nicotene alternative smoking product.

Everything you've heard about China, is a lie, a huge corporate lie... fingers crossed...

This vaping is harder on the lungs than normal cigarettes. I got the wrong type of liquid niccotene?

I hoped this was an DIY abortion thread.

But this is fascinating also.

You say you've been taking amino acids... Have you tried micronised creatine monohydrate? I started taking it recently and the effects are very interesting.

Yeah, from what I remember it boost ATP levels or something? I've got a bottle on my shelf but haven't really gotten into it that much... not into the gym thing, more of a endurance wanderer, weather is getting nice...

That is probably not an amino acid though...

The nitric oxide booster stuff is garbage if you ask me but it works. Only for a real short period though, totally gives you "less resistance" with movement...

I think the vapor itself is the main irritant. I remember reading a study that concluded that it's actually less tolerable than cigarette smoke is, can't find it for the life of me right now though. I believe it said that the heat of the vapor itself was the problem? So I would think the problem would be the atomizer if I remember that all correct, but I could be dead wrong on all counts.

It doesn't combust the material, so there is supposedly a little more purity. It warms, and vaporizes rather than burns with fire.

Think I got the propelyne gycol / vegetable glycerine mix or something.

They claim propelyne gycol is "harsher" or provides a throat hit. It's alcohol solvent, with industrial oil thinning applications. It's mineral based. I trust that less. They claim it's mildy toxic.

The vegetable glycerine, which is still an alcohol, is said to be smoother, and they proposed it's use as a room vaporizer mist along long time ago do to some sort of antibacterial qualities. That in itself sounds risky. But it has beauty care moisture applications. Sounds good for my lungs. Only guessing...

Plus, I didn't have a filter, so I think that gave me the perception of it being harsher... filter in, it is smooth...

I need to learn more about chemistry... 100% vegetable glycerine next time.

In any event it has to be better than burning tobacco leaf and tobacco leaf filler. That's less tar, and I don't believe that nicotene causes cancer. The overall long term beating the immune system takes, that gives way to cancer. The tar causes cancer, the other ingredients as whole in tobacco products cause cancer, it not nicotene, only my opinion. Couldn't find a single study that linked pure nicotine exposure to cancer, might not be looking hard enough. Fingers crossed the solvents are super mild, and therapeutic.

Let us know how it goes. I tried electronic cigarettes once...got too frustrated with them because I could only have what would be a few cigarettes worth of tokes, then I'd have to recharge the battery for hours. I had a few batteries and they'd all end up together in the recharge box. I'm guessing I just bought a shit brand though, I should get back into them.