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Interesting TED Talk


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I kinda felt like the suggested programs would be ineffective on the more critical and intelligent sociopaths/psychopaths.

If you want to "solve a problem" like sociopathy/psychopathy, I think it might take someone who understands the traits first-hand. They would have to have those tendencies, themselves, AND want to "fix" sociopaths in the first place.

Thoughts?

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Little man, Sociopathy cannot be "fixed", nor can any personal disorder - ever. It's like a 'handicap' of the mind. 

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by Miss Diagnosed

Little man, Sociopathy cannot be "fixed", nor can any personal disorder - ever. It's like a 'handicap' of the mind. 

 There was a reason I put quotation marks around "fix" and "solve." I was pointing out a logical fallacy in their methods under the hypothetical condition that it WAS possible.

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by TheLeviathan

I think it might take someone who understands the traits first-hand. They would have to have those tendencies, themselves, AND want to "fix" sociopaths in the first place.

Thoughts?

Why do you think someone would have to understand the traits first hand? Do you think sociopathic traits are difficult to understand? Sociopathic traits are not complex. The challenge is accepting that someone (close to you)  has no conscience. Just like when a loved one has terminal cancer, there's denial.  Not having a conscience classifies someone as insane. And I agree with Miss D, there's no cure. If you think there is you are in denial.  

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I think brainwashing would be effective. Restrain the empathetically-challenged in chairs and zap them with electricity whenever they fail to respond emotionally to tacky sad movies.

Though the people who do this would probably have to be empathetically-challenged as well. Woah.

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by UN Observer

 Why do you think someone would have to understand the traits first hand? Do you think sociopathic traits are difficult to understand? Sociopathic traits are not complex. The challenge is accepting that someone (close to you)  has no conscience. Just like when a loved one has terminal cancer, there's denial.  Not having a conscience classifies someone as insane. And I agree with Miss D, there's no cure. If you think there is you are in denial.  

 Neuro-typical people have an emotional and moral conscience. I'd imagine they don't know what it's like to have an ideological conscience, or no conscience at all. To try to form a perspective on a mental state that hasn't been directly observed (either, through experience of the thoughts, or the experience of the feeling) is fallacious. All you have is an abstract interpretation (through the use of limited language) of an abstract feeling or thought that isn't yours.

I don't want to "cure" sociopathy, as I don't see it as a problem. Nor did I ever say that it was possible to cure sociopathy. Read my response to Miss D for clarification. It was a consideration under the hypothetical condition that it was possible.

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by kitty

I think brainwashing would be effective. Restrain the empathetically-challenged in chairs and zap them with electricity whenever they fail to respond emotionally to tacky sad movies.

 It has been demonstrated that sociopaths have no anxiety when faced with electric shock, nor do they generally learn from mistakes. Lack of remorse and inability to attribute consequences to their own actions are defining characteristics of a sociopath.

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Torturing sociopaths with electricity has been studied?

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Testing their anxiety levels when introduced to demonstrably timed electric shock (Timer counts down, the subjects know when the shock will occur), and comparing them to the anxiety levels of a neuro-typical under the same conditions, has been tested. Sociopaths lacked anxiety, even though they knew when the shock was coming. Neuro-typicals would get very anxious when the timer was about to count all the way down and reset.

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Maybe they just need higher voltage for non neuro-typical-empaths. But it sounds like after all the shock "therapy" that they would just go back to their old habits, so permanent shock disciplinary implants could be tried. But then that would get really complicated. 

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