nicely put.
i had not been able to make a good distinction between these before
by TryptamineMany people believe believe sociopaths are proactively antisocial people. Part of the reason for that is that psychologists use the terms 'sociopathy' and 'anti-social personality disorder' synonymously. The terminology here can be confusing. The way I like to put it is this: A psychopath is a person who was born with weak emotions; a sociopath through conditioning lacks the ability to bond with others; and anti-social personality disorder is a clinical diagnosis for a person who lacks feelings for others and chronically breaks the law.
So if we're talking about sociopathy here, the condition has little to do with anti-social acts, nor does it have to do with narcissism. Sociopathy is a deep lack in the ability to connect with others emotionally, combined with a manipulative mindset. A person may or may not behave in an adversarial manner toward others as a consequence. Not connecting with others does not preclude you to treating them badly. The reason people often associate sociopathy with narcissism is because a person who does not connect with others tends to derive their self-worth not from their relationships with others, but from how they can compete with them. If they can compete well in the ways they think are important, they may become narcissistic.
Just lack of connecting with others? That's your own way of defining sociopathy. I disagree. Autists, schizoids and some retards fail to connect too, and they can be manipulative too in their own ways.
Add to what you said, lack of a conscience, lack of regret for hurting others, inability to learn from their own mistakes which is a very important trait of sociopaths imo, recklessness that makes them underestimate the risks and go after the rewards despite of those risks... They all come together, these traits. Pick and choose just a few, that's not a sociopath, that's your made up fantasy about them. And as it happens this cocktail of traits makes sociopaths dangerous and damaging to those around them. Take a man with those traits and force him to live in society and groups of normal people, he'll be abusive, no way around that.
The sociopath who can do bad but chooses not to? That's bullshit. It's way easier and tempting to get by by trampling others in your way, on short terms at least. And that's what the sociopath's cocktail of traits makes him do.
by StayonherePeople think I am weird because I have self-esteem and I am independent. It doesn't mean I don't want people. It means I have had to do everything by myself.
You're Maria, Gia's stalker. You come to this site because you think he's your abusive ex, even though he'sprobably just a random guy. You bitch about what a jerk he was to you, and then say you want nothing more than to be dominated and suck his cock. How is that self respect.
by Edvard
Just lack of connecting with others? That's your own way of defining sociopathy. I disagree. Autists, schizoids and some retards fail to connect too, and they can be manipulative too in their own ways.
Add to what you said, lack of a conscience, lack of regret for hurting others, inability to learn from their own mistakes which is a very important trait of sociopaths imo, recklessness that makes them underestimate the risks and go after the rewards despite of those risks... They all come together, these traits. Pick and choose just a few, that's not a sociopath, that's your made up fantasy about them. And as it happens this cocktail of traits makes sociopaths dangerous and damaging to those around them. Take a man with those traits and force him to live in society and groups of normal people, he'll be abusive, no way around that.
The sociopath who can do bad but chooses not to? That's bullshit. It's way easier and tempting to get by by trampling others in your way, on short terms at least. And that's what the sociopath's cocktail of traits makes him do.
How would you define the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath? Or would you, at all?
It's most certainly not easier to get by, by trampling on others. That's self-sabotage, in the long run. Unless you're in some very particular circumstances. Everyone I've ever seen who makes a habit of trampling on other people, ends up screwing themselves over and being miserable. Damaging other people will inevitably result in other people damaging you, and just generally makes day-to-day life less agreeable. And when you're stuck between a rock and a hard place, there will be no one there to help. I've seen it happen a million times.
I'm not completely sure if I'm a psychopath or not, but for me, I prefer to keep things running smoothly. When you treat people well, nine times out of ten, they'll return the favor with interest. My life is serene. Extremely so. And I'd have to be retarded to think that it would be any better if I started abusing the people I keep near me.
by StayonhereAm I really "Ed"??
I am the stalker. That is your version of things? I am the stalker.
And how can you tell if I am serious or not. Or even a woman. Do you have my pussy pictures? I know you like to collect them. :)
I didn't know Maria at all, but I imagine that if you weren't her, you would have reacted somewhat differently to the accusation. Just an impression, really.
Thanks! I have said millions of times, these are not puppets. I get error messages so I have to re-register. I have to make up a new name and password every flipping time. It may be a Mac thing. I told people days ago on chat.'
Or were you talking about my statement of LUV! lol