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I may be getting too personal in making an example, but I think this illustrates somewhat...  I am easy to define as "overprotective" when it comes to my kids.  I see and simulate danger and just enter a higher state of situational awareness (which I already torture myself with more than I think is normal).  I consider them a "problem" or a factor in the ongoing threat matrix I must navigate, which feels like I treat them like one would their wallet getting lost or whatever.  I switch off conversation, etc., and remove interest in casual behavior.  I realize I objectify them and people this way.  I know I sound a little ...callous?  I am interested only in goals being reached and they just become that part of an equation I am working out to solve.  Free will and emotion are interference.  I have trouble understanding those that can't shut off emotional response when prudent.  I sometimes just think kids are demented creatures which need only survive to adulthood, and then we can talk.  Till then, there is no reason to talk beyond certain things since they just dont and cant understand.

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Well yeah, it's not like you inhale someone who is turned on and go "Damn dat smells sexay", it's a passive response that is associative at best for recognition. If anything, it's the sort of thing you notice by studying yourself as opposed to them.

I only bring up that point as an old friend had a reduced sense of smell from a semi-experimental nasal stimulant to fight allergies. He was less allergic, but he couldn't smell things too well, such as if milk had gone bad or the aroma of something being cooked. He also never got the hint when someone was flirting with him or other social cues.

Coorelation does not mean causation, but it has always left me curious about how one's sense of smell might affect how victim they are to other people's feelings, at least in a minorly connected fashion.

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Only they'll be much more pleasant to talk to as adults, if you can force yourself to talk to them now.

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Coorelation does not mean causation, but it has always left me curious about how one's sense of smell might affect how victim they are to other people's feelings, at least in a minorly connected fashion.

Whoa! That's a really cool idea actually. Do feelings give off subliminal smells? It makes sense in a lot of ways.  

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It is odd how it seems we forget we are animals.  Instincts, subliminal action/reaction, unknown sensory effects...  At least, it seems to confound the layer of consciousness we chatter to ourselves with that asks "why do I do this?"  We all know but we don't?  We also have a magnetic sense, usually attributed to the migrating birds.  Plenty of examples of how zapping brains makes drastic subjective switches.

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That makes sense except then they would all be sisters/brothers, and how would they make smart cubs when it was their turn?
It'd be a bunch of hillbilly lions with crooked incisors. :( 

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I agree with you.  It is a flaw I see in myself.  Although, I am always interested in addressing questions in a cerebral manner.  I enjoy giving and sharing knowledge with them, I am just not very good on subjective or behavioral grounds.

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The smells emitted from within the family typically reflect their relation, doesn't it?

If not for that inbreeding would likely have a much higher likelihood.

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Since we are going off the rails already, I wish to ask: how prevalent is incest in the animal kingdom?  Do only the higher animals run the risk of defects, with more complex genes?

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It's true what you say about us being animals and forgetting that. I would like to know more about this subject. I've never heard about the migrating/magnetic thing before. I'm gonna google some stuff.   

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