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Feral Humans


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 Around 1970, child services were called to a Californian home. What they found inside was a young girl who was completely immobilized and bound to a toilet. This girl was isolated from any form of human contact and language for 13 years.  She had never picked up on the English language, she used shrieks and growls to communicate. This girl also couldn't walk and crawled on all fours like a animal. Her name was Genie and she is still is alive and hasn't recovered. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)

This case was also similar to Victor or Aveyron, a feral child found roaming the French countryside in the early 1800's. The people of Averyron were terrorized by loud shrieks and screeches during the night, eventually they assembled a group of hunters to kill whatever was out there. The hunters found a boy(estimated to be around 12 years of age) covered in scars and naked in a tree. They found Victor during January with snow covering the ground, Victor had adapted to the cold and had a dense layer of fat around his body that were similar to penguins and seals. A man attemped to educate Victor,  but as with Genie he only got so far. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_of_Aveyron

I find these articles extremely intresting.  The brain will bend and mold like clay during the early years of a humans life, psychologists and sociologists have long debated the "Forbidden Experiment" which they would isolate a infant from all human contact to see what the default human nature exactly is. Not to mention how far the brain would evolve to surivive. Victor within 12 years developed a weathered, insulating layer of fat to combat the winter. That would take hundreds or even thousands of years for evolution to do the same task. The possibilities are endless.

What are your thoughts on the subject?

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I think feral children illustrate vividly how far our brains go to socialize us. Humans spending their formative years around animals learn to think like them, and indeed even become "one of them." And once their brains have passed the basic self-identity development phase, it is nearly (if not absolutely) impossible to alter that. Feral children are notorious for their inability to re-socialize, and many of them fail to ever learn basic things such as spoken human language.

This all makes me wonder whether or not some great potential within us has been wasted by the societies we have been socialized to. We perceive the socialization of feral children to be "primitive." Perhaps there is a level of socialization humans are capable of, which would likewise lead those who have gone through it to find us primitive.

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Agreed. I'm also curious as to how far the brain will bend the body to adapt. Imagine if Victor had been abandoned in a swamp or a desert.

 

Your point makes me wonder what would happen if the isolated being had no contact with any animal or human. With nothing to model after, we would see what a true human really is.

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I believe that your experiences and surroundings from birth to 10 years old. Is the most critical time for your brain to develop the basics you will need for every day life. Geni was only able to mentally go so far in her schooling. Because of that critical period of brain development she missed out on. In her first 10 years of life.

Now if someone were to abduct a 10 year old child that had a normal upbringing.  And kept that child in the same conditions that genie was kept in for 10 years. I think that they would be able to reverse the damage that was done in the 10 years and bring them back to a normal functioning adult.

No I didn't do any research on the subject. I watched 20 min of the video. 

This is just common sense

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Feral Humans

"This is just common sense"

You seem very prone to repeating specific phrases.

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Feral Humans

A very good film is  Kaspar Hauser (by Werner Herzog), based on a real story - worth to watch. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enigma_of_Kaspar_Hauser

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by Turncoat

"This is just common sense"

You seem very prone to repeating specific phrases.

 

That is all you got out of that. lol

So much for your intellectualism. And I will continue until people like you get a grasp on how, common sense plays a huge role in every day life.  

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Feral Humans

If you really cared about variation, you could interchange it with "practical knowledge."

Just think, anytime someone said something lame, you could go "I'm so sorry that you lack the practical knowledge to deal with the situation at hand. It must be so hard for you, being an insecure child and all. I pity you, I really do."

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by whoameye

No I didn't do any research on the subject. I watched 20 min of the video. 

This is just common sense

 You are really, really sensitive to criticism. Hyper-sensitive, in fact.

This comment is clearly an attempt to deflect potential criticism in the form of some accusation that you'd researched the subject matter at hand. If you're a cold-blooded sociopath, you shouldn't care about such accusations. You certainly shouldn't care in advance of those accusations actually taking place.

You've taken to using your iPad to rectify your abysmal grasp of the English language, which hasn't really helped your grammatical difficulties or your complete inability to structure a coherent sentence. You only began doing this after multiple members criticized you on your weak linguistic abilities.

Anything remotely deemed an insult to you is immediately countered by your creation of a thread dedicated to either the person who made the insult or to the insult itself, in which you repeatedly insist that your "wisdom" is being ignored by "children" whose only knowledge base is that determined by their college education or by their inherent association between "true" knowledge and bluster. Interestingly, you refuse to actually acknowledge by name the people who've enraged you so. What makes you so fearful of judgment, particularly when that judgment is handed to you by anonymous strangers on an internet forum?

 

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No really, searching your name and common sense has quite a few results. It's like it's your new Behind your Computer catchphrase.

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