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What is your experience with therapy and/or mental hospitalization?

A psychiatrist will put you on medication in 10 minutes...

Not only do they not give a shit they make money off of feeding pills

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What is your experience with therapy and/or mental hospitalization?

Thank you for being so thorough.

Yes, I am very aware of the general criteria for personality disorders, and I fit just about all of it. I have also looked very closely at the criteria for cluster A and B PDs, and I seem to fit much of the criteria for NPD and SPD, and fully fit the criteria for ASPD. I know self-assessment is unreliable, but it's all I've got currently. By my interpretation, I land between 29 and 35 on the PCL-R. 

As for what I want out of treatment, I should have made it clearer. I am merely curious about my personality, but I don't want it changed, nor do I see how it could change. It's the very basis of my being. The things I want to change are the non-PD things. I don't particularly care for the possible depressive episodes. The possible manic episodes are fun but they've gotten to the point that I have had full-on psychosis. I am also agitated very easily by stupid things no one else is bothered by. Sometimes the agitation gets intense enough that I must excuse myself to kick and slam a wall for awhile. 

I don't think introspection is contradictory to psychopathy. Atypical maybe, but just look at Dr. James Fallon. After finding that his brain scans matched those of serial killers, he extensively examined himself and his family history of psychopathic traits. Like him, I just have a scientific curiosity for all things and especially psychology. Also, having had such an inconsistent sense of self and reality, I trust nothing about my experience.

"Is there significant interpersonal dysfunctional, social and/or occupational dysfunction that has existed almost since as far back as you can remember?"

Oh god yes. I couldn't function at all in school or work if I weren't able to so easily lie and manipulate the system. I once got credit for almost a whole semester that I didn't do in online school. I lied convincingly and forged a ton of evidence that a system error was deleting my work.

Interpersonally, I just don't desire deep bonds with people. I enjoy people and consider myself an extrovert, but I am not emotionally attached to anyone. Not even family. 

I've also committed a fair number of crimes. Nothing big and nothing I've been caught doing, but in the wealthy low-crime neighborhood I reside in, my petty thefts, trespassing, and property destruction are HUGELY out of the norm.

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What is your experience with therapy and/or mental hospitalization?

I was compelled as a teenager to see a therapist by my parents. He was a nice person but easy to fool. Just describe some of these as your life's problems. Don't mention suicide though. 

 

Do you worry about your child’s emotional health? Worry no longer.

Here are eight suggestions that will nearly guarantee your child will suffer from poor mental health, strained family relationships, poor peer relationships, low self-esteem and chronic emotional problems throughout his or her life.

1. Shut down all emotional expression
If your child expresses anger, sadness, or fear be sure to make fun of them, tell them not to feel, and dismiss their emotions. Withhold love whenever they express any emotion — especially vulnerable feelings.

Another very effective way to shut down their emotional expression is to to trump their emotions by making sure you become more upset than they are. They will put their feelings on hold and change their focus to comforting you.

2. Set inconsistent rules
Never talk openly about your expectations for your child’s behavior. Keep your child guessing about what you expect from him or her — and make sure you change the rules constantly. Be sporadic and unpredictable when enforcing consequences and punishment.

When your child doesn’t comply with your every whim, say — with a heavy disappointed scowl — “You should know by now what I expect of you. Don’t ever let me down again.”


3. Ask your child to solve your problems
Share all of your worries, concerns, and relationship problems on a daily basis. Ask them for advice and act helpless in the face of solving your own adult concerns about work, money, relationships — and especially sex.

Always present yourself as incapable of taking care of yourself and your own problems. This will ensure that your child will feel emotionally burdened by your issues.

4. Put down your child’s other parent
Never show affection to your spouse or partner in front of your child and criticize your partner daily. Alternate between being cold and rejecting of your spouse, and fighting and screaming in front of your child. Threaten divorce on a regular basis so your child will live in a state of chronic anxiety.

If you’re already divorced, remain cold, distant, bitter, and angry, and blaming of your ex-spouse for the rest of your life. Be sure to send subtle messages to your child that he or she is the cause of your divorce.

5. Punish independence and separation
Whether your child is two, twelve, or eighteen years old, alternate between crying hysterically and totally dismissing them when they express thoughts, feelings, or desires that differ from your own.

If they show any signs of wanting to explore new things, meet new people, or express any thought or emotion that is different from your, respond by saying dramatically, “How could you do this to me?”

6. Base your self-worth on your child’s performance
Link your self-esteem on your child’s appearance, behavior, how well they do academically, and how many friends they have. Remind them that their performance reflects on you, as their parent, and that any failure makes you feel like a horrible parent. Put extreme pressure on them to be the best in everything they do.

Threaten to withhold love if they don’t win the beauty pageant, if they don’t get elected student body president, if their grades ever fall below a 4.0.

7. Get in the middle of your child’s relationships
Direct every action your child takes in their relationships. If your child gets in trouble at school, immediately rush to talk to the teacher and get your child off the hook. As your child grows, be overly involved in your child’s friendships, love relationships, and referee all disagreements and fights with peers.

If you have more than one child, get in the middle of sibling relationships by comparing them to each other regularly by saying, “Why can’t you be more like __?”

8. Expect your child to live your unfulfilled dreams
Push your child to do all of the things you wished you’d done as a child or adolescence. If you’ve always dreamed of becoming a professional dancer, force your child to take daily dance classes starting at age 2. If she ever wants to quit, cry hysterically and don’t talk to her for at least a week.

If you’ve always dreamed of being a pro baseball player, force your son to carry a baseball during all waking moments and threatened to put him up for adoption if he isn’t MVP every year. Let him know that if he doesn’t get a college baseball scholarship you will be disappointed and depressed for the rest of your life.

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2012/08/03/8-surefire-ways-to-emotionally-screw-up-your-kid/#at_pco=smlre-1.0&at_tot=4&at_ab=per-14&at_pos=1

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What is your experience with therapy and/or mental hospitalization?

 

by owl

Thank you for being so thorough.

Yes, I am very aware of the general criteria for personality disorders, and I fit just about all of it. I have also looked very closely at the criteria for cluster A and B PDs, and I seem to fit much of the criteria for NPD and SPD, and fully fit the criteria for ASPD. I know self-assessment is unreliable, but it's all I've got currently. By my interpretation, I land between 29 and 35 on the PCL-R. 

As for what I want out of treatment, I should have made it clearer. I am merely curious about my personality, but I don't want it changed, nor do I see how it could change. It's the very basis of my being. The things I want to change are the non-PD things. I don't particularly care for the possible depressive episodes. The possible manic episodes are fun but they've gotten to the point that I have had full-on psychosis. I am also agitated very easily by stupid things no one else is bothered by. Sometimes the agitation gets intense enough that I must excuse myself to kick and slam a wall for awhile. 

I don't think introspection is contradictory to psychopathy. Atypical maybe, but just look at Dr. James Fallon. After finding that his brain scans matched those of serial killers, he extensively examined himself and his family history of psychopathic traits. Like him, I just have a scientific curiosity for all things and especially psychology. Also, having had such an inconsistent sense of self and reality, I trust nothing about my experience.

"Is there significant interpersonal dysfunctional, social and/or occupational dysfunction that has existed almost since as far back as you can remember?"

Oh god yes. I couldn't function at all in school or work if I weren't able to so easily lie and manipulate the system. I once got credit for almost a whole semester that I didn't do in online school. I lied convincingly and forged a ton of evidence that a system error was deleting my work.

Interpersonally, I just don't desire deep bonds with people. I enjoy people and consider myself an extrovert, but I am not emotionally attached to anyone. Not even family. 

I've also committed a fair number of crimes. Nothing big and nothing I've been caught doing, but in the wealthy low-crime neighborhood I reside in, my petty thefts, trespassing, and property destruction are HUGELY out of the norm.

 If you want help for your non-PD related things see a doctor. That should be your priority over your curiosity. :)

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What is your experience with therapy and/or mental hospitalization?

Therapy has always been a big load of bullocks to me.

Sitting in a room with someone that's trying to guilt or stare you into telling them things that are frankly none of their business, and they expect to get paid for it as well - Even though you essentially sit there in a quiet room solving you own problems, just with them watching.

Pass.

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