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What is empathy really and is it important to have it? Some people see empathy as just a weakness but I think it's useful. I'm not sure about this, but I think that it's empathy that makes people understand how their behavior affect others. I don't lack it completely (I think). I sometimes do something that is less than good to people (who in some cases are friends). At the time it feels great to do it, but sometimes afterwards it hits me (sometimes it can take a long time), that I really shouldn't have done that (at least not to a friend). That I wouldn't have liked if someone had done it to me. I can understand how it would be if I lacked this ability completely. Not that I after I understand feel some terrible regret or shame, but it helps me to improve my behavior.

Another thing is that I think that it works in both ways. Since I can't really understand how my behavior affects others, I also don't understand how the behavior of others affect me. It's hard to explain... I can get furiously angry when someone has done something to me, but I in a way don't understand the full ramifications of it. Also, I do not really understand my own behavior. When I look back on my life it seems "crazy" what I have done. Still at the time it felt right and like I was justified in doing it. Also, I know that I (probably) will do these or similar things again.

Then there is the lack of shame which I also believe is related to this. Because of my lifestyle I'm very grateful for it. If I could feel shame (as much as) I think other people do, my life would be a lot harder. So I am not dissatisfied with the way I am. My problems are mostly caused by other people. This could seem like I'm lying to myself, but I don't think so. I really am a nice person. If people are nice to me and treat me with respect, I treat them the same way.

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Empathy is for the weak and the idiotic

anyone that has empathy should be culled

i hate everyone because they don't love me

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Tautological argument...you probably don't love anyone, not even yourself; therefore, no one loves you because you hate everyone

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My logic is superior

fuck you faggot

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Nobody lacks empathy completely. Socios just have a very small amount of empathy (and emotion) compared to most people, which probably explains why sociopathy isn't a black and white thing. You don't have to be an emotional mirror to at least understand another person's emotions a little bit or not fuck people's lives up.


If a socio somehow finds that their antisocial behavior affects them negatively, they might function just as well as any empath. I don't think the high-functioning sociopaths need to be more empathetic since they often realize they're making it easier for themselves by "behaving".


Speaking from experience, even  with someone that just doesn't give a damn in general, I know I can't just appeal to them with my emotions. I have to show them that doing what I want will also benefit them or not doing what I  want will result in negative consequences.

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One of you smart fuckers can probably explain this to me. What is the diff between Empathy and sympathy ?

 

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Empathy:

1) The ability to understand and share the feelings of another.

Sympathy:
1) Feelings of pity and sorrow for someone else's misfortune.
2) Understanding between people; common feeling.

 In a nutshell, one of them doesn't involve a forced version of "sharing".

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Empathy........So say someone i know, mom dies, Empathy would be me remembering the pain i went threw when someone close to me died.

Sympathy.........Would be me fealing sry for him because his mom is dead

Now what if I was the one who killed his mom just to watch him suffer. What would that be called ?

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"Empathy........So say someone i know, mom dies, Empathy would be me remembering the pain i went threw when someone close to me died.

Sympathy.........Would be me fealing sry for him because his mom is dead"

No, that first one is still sympathy. You'd be using your own past experiences to sympathize.

Empathy would be feeling sad because he's sad. Him being sad that his mother died would serve to make you just that much more sad by proxy.


"Now what if I was the one who killed his mom just to watch him suffer. What would that be called ?"

Sadistic.

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Why aren't we talking about compassion specifically?

It's not that hard to understand another persons' point of view.

You just put yourself in their shoes and act through all the possible scenarios.

Neither is it that hard to understand another persons' set of beliefs.

Just watch them suffer and see them find a way to cope with it.

But what is it about seeing yourself through another persons' eyes, that makes people so fidgety?

Afraid of finding a connection that might define yourself just as well perhaps?

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