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MMP branch thread: issues of transgender ID sexual orientation


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Dear Dr. MMP: I am interested in exchanging ideas on your first topic. Since your first thread became a discussion of your ID I will leave that alone. This topic can branch off in several directions, maybe not the ones you wanted. So i will post several angles here.

0. If you prefer not to waste time on blah blah blah, i'm glad to introduce you to two activists in Houston interested in a medical model for treating and healing criminal illness as a disease to reform prisons and public health. Ray Hill is an established prison outreach advocate and radio host, he is also well known as a gay atheist who is active in glbt politics. Olivia Reiner has used spiritual healing to cure ppl of physical diseases and mental conditions caused by abuse and addiction, and believes homosexuality and transgender disorders can be healed. Their #are posted at www.spiritual-healing.us i believe some unnatural cases caused by abuse can be healed and changed, but some ppl are born that way spiritually by karma and may or may not change in this lifetime.

1. Cases of natural and unnatural transgender/sexual orientation

I encourage ppl to make a distinction between cases caused by abuse which might be healed and changed, vs ppl spiritually incarnated with opposite gender or partners of same sex due to karma which may or may not change. Not all cases are caused by negative karma or demonic / generational curses. But some have been healed using those methods of healing past generations.

I had one online friend who did not even come out as transgender until after he felt healed of guilt judgment and repression. Once he let go, he embraced his female personality went through counseling and decided to change his body. He was so happy for the first time in his life his family and friends supported "her". She said it was like decorating her house. Her body was her temple and she could design it any way she liked to have her house.

Another friend of mine suffered spiritual attacks of fear and doubt about changing his gender. His father was already reassigned as female. And my friend feared he was heading along the same path. But his motivation was not out of love but based on fear and he suffered panic attacks. When he collapsed on the ground not talking i called my friend olivia to come pray in person. She left another meeting and came to pray to remove whatever oppressed spirit was overtaking my friend's mind. She said the other person she went to help had the opposite problem. So she prayed for both ppl, one after the other, and these mixed up female and male spirits quit tormenting and confusing both ppl who recovered and quit having these attacks.

So in that case it was not natural; and getting rid of the "demonic" or karmic influences solved whatever issues these PARTICULAR people were having with gender issues.

I'm sure all cases are different, but these are two where I talked to the people myself about how they changed.

2. how does this relate to sociopathy and criminal illness

A. the same distinction should be made between people with "natural" sociopathic mindsets vs. people who may be unnaturally sick due to "demonic obsessions/addictions" that could be removed in order to restore their minds.

It is not fair or accurate to confuse these cases together as "all the same" and judged as unnatural and sick.

I believe cases like the Son of Sam/David Berkowitz were caused by unnatural demonic influences; so that when he was cured of these conditions, then he no longer had the obsessions to stalk, torture or kill people out of uncontrollable drives. So that was caused by an additional factor, one that could be cured.

Same with the two cases of schizophrenic patients observed and described by Dr. Scott Peck in "Glimpses of the Devil." Everyone, including Dr. Peck, assumed they were sick and the voices in their heads were part of the delusion and sickness. Yet after applying deliverance, the voices were eliminated so both patients regained their free will and reason, and were able to follow therapy to treat the rest of their problems effectively, unlike before.

Andrea Yates is another case of mental illness involving "demonic" voices that had to be addressed first, so she could restore her normal mind and capacities and comply with treatment once those were overcome or removed.

B. the same methods of "deliverance/exorcism" and healing prayer that are used to cure physical and mental sickness when these are rooted in spiritual sickness or "generational" sins/karma passed down

can be used to remove these demonic influences in cases such as Son of Sam or Coral Eugene Watts.

Seeing demons and/or hearing voices is a different type of condition. If we can address and manage or cure those cases, then we can distinguish these levels of criminal illness that becomes "inhuman" and not mix them up with people whose natural sociopathic mindsets are normal for them and do not mean the person has no control or conscience.

This can change the criminal justice system to distinguish these types of cases, and quit judging and punishing all people as if there is no distinction and no chance for recovery, but assumed to be lying to get out of charges.

I would like to develop more of the technology and brain scans advocated by Dr. Amen to perfect means of diagnosis, monitoring and managing criminal illness and addiction, where science can show if people are fully cured or merely in remission, similar to cancer that may or may not be fully cured but at least managed and safe.

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MMP branch thread: issues of transgender ID sexual orientation

oh this 1 is a treat lol

unfortunately i need to get going now

i shall maybe answer tomorrow if i still feel inspired

 

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dear emily

thank u for ur thought ful and well articulated response

1st of all in this enlightened time of the 21st century it is not cool anymore to label people with homosexual or trans gender tendencies as diseased people instead these orientations r to be celebrated as part of the human diversity

more and more fetishes r to be tolerated with some notable exceptions such as pedophilia zoophilia or necrophilia to name a few examples- these deviations offend the society at large and r not be tolerated

but if a guy likes to be fucked in the ass for example its his business it dosnt offend any 1 he was born this way and dosnt necessarily want to be healed from it

i am well aware of the techniques that have been used to treat these patients in the past such as chemical castrations even stereo tactical operations have made a new coming in certain cases but modern medicine dosnt treat these conditions as sickness any more

now u might offer me a counter argument say that ur not right dr mike these people offend the hard core christians and the right wing rustics of the periphery it makes them sick to their stomach to watch two hairy dudes licking each other in broad day light- its an aesthetic waste fully comparable to the wind mills that produce electricity with the price of screwing up the view

but the thing is the opinions of these groups dont matter in the enlightened 21st century these people r still living in the middle ages they are the diseased people who need to change to conform to the norms of society not other way around

so my advice for u is resign the church abandon ur silly and unscientific superstition about after life leave the dark ages behind and step into the enlightened 21st century

if u still feel disgusted by homosexuals or trans gender people i recommend a treatment called hyposensibilisation try creating a guy character in 1 of the online games mentioned earlier 2nd life is free to play if im not mistaken

explore ur boundaries go out of ur comfort zone and who knows what u will find

u might find u prefer being male

 

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Hello Dr. Mike:

No, the criteria I use is whether the person(s) themselves self-report that the condition came from unnatural abuse and was not part of their original nature.

It is not about judging someone from the outside based on other people's criteria.

That is why it was different when my friend identified as female and preferred to change bodies to female.

Vs. when the other friend felt pressured by fear or negative anxieties and needed to resolve those issues before he decided he was okay staying male.

My point is to resolve any and all negative fears, guilt, conflicts or conditions, so the person is spiritually at peace before making any such lifechanging decisions.

Only if someone says "yes my alcoholism is a disease" if that is their terms for it, I would work with them on their terms.

PS and yes I agree with the use of creative roleplaying to either fulfill the projected desires, and/or to work out any underlying issues related to them. if these are natural, then there are no issues and the person(s) can just enjoy the creative interaction. but if there are unresolved internal conflicts creating these projections, those issues tend to surface during roleplaying so the person can tell the difference and possibly work them out. it is up to them.

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okay emily thanks for the correction and clarification

but if a patient came to my reception telling me they want a sex change operation because unnatural forces such as aliens or demonic possession planted those urges in their head i wuld want to do some extensive screening to rule out other possibilities such as schizo frenia or stress related psychosis before i called the pope to send the exorcist

 

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Thanks to people like me these people will always be labeled as 'diseased', 'disordered', 'disabled'.

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Dear MMP: Not to worry. the people who are truly taken over by demons will likely not report it. because if they do have demon infestations, the demons want to stay in control over their host and will fight off attempts at therapy. that is why the two schizophrenic patients that Dr. Peck observed could not be helped with therapy until after the demonic stage was resolved first by using deliverance/exorcism methods. after that, the patients were able to comply with therapy to complete successful treatment. (though one patient later died of physical diseased conditions from too many years of abuse and neglect of her body before she finally got help to stop the self-destructive behavior)

Normally it is the family who will seek help if their loved one is acting like Linda Blair in the Exorcist. Seriously, my friend Olivia has witnessed that type of snakelike thrashing, hissing, spewing like the Devil, and even the head spinning business. I believe these are visions on another spiritual level, where dreams occur, but the exorcists can see them. In Dr. Peck's accounts, all the members of the healing team witnessed the same snakelike behavior. So unless it was a 'group hallucination' it is hard to either prove or discount where those visions came from if they were not fully in the same plane of reality as the empirical physical world. thus Dr. Peck had trouble writing down what was hard to explain using empirical science, it took him 10 years to write and publish the book after he witnessed it.

My friend Olivia is trying to put together medical researchers to document this type of treatment. That is why i asked if you would like to head up a team and look into these phenomena as a method of treating people suffering demonic voices on this level. Dr. Peck recommended formal research after he changed his mind and decided it was a valid process that merited documented study and development as a field in psychiatry. I also believe science can be used to distinguish which cases are delusional, and which really are influenced by "spiritual entities and infestations that respond to exorcism for removal" REGARDLESS if it can ever be proved where these things operate. If the treatment can be shown to work effectively, to return patients to normal states of mind, why not?

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I feel sorry for these people. It must be pretty fucking enraging having your sense of self stripped away and having it replaced with shame.

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well emily

i put my faith in hard science and modern medicine and always warn my patients against giving their money to homeopaths hand healers miracle healers fortune tellers etc- these treatments have no scientific basis and leads to building up false hopes at best and may be life threatening at worst

tho i feel i am hurting my own business since i moonlight as a pet medium my self

i dont feel its especially wrong to take money from people who r willing to pay me 200 bucks an hour for telling them what their dog is thinking while their at work seems to me they r just looking for an excuse to get rid of their excess cash

 

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Not to worry part 2

the real healers don't charge money but help people for free

the false faith healers tend to tie money or faith-based conditions to the process and mess it up because of that

That is why I only refer sources I know put the healing and help first, and don't tie conditions to that especially not money.

Dr. Francis MacNutt in Florida makes it a point (1) never to charge money for the healing (2) not to tie conditions on faith, not to try to dictate or control the outcome, but receive the healing unconditionally or it causes it to fail (3) to distinguish the demonic cases from the others and NOT misjudge "all cases of homosexuality as demonic."

In his book on Healing updated in 1999 he added references to a medical study on Rheumatoid Arthritis where most of the patients received some improvement of their conditions, including one man who went from bedridden crippled to walking normally again without any pain and no longer needing any medication for symptoms.

So the healing cannot be predicted, it just maximizes the person's ability of their mind/body to heal themselves. And the rest is up to nature to determine the extent that they recover from whatever conditions were previously blocked. the point of the prayer is to remove obstructions in their mind/spirit from "unforgiven" conflicts or issues. These "strongholds" tie up and attract negative energy and throughts/emotions like an infected wound attracts viral bacteria. So the point is to clean out the wound "in the mind/spirit" and heal it so it quits attracting the negative energy that causes addictions or self-destructive thoughts based on fear, rage or hate. Once those blockages are removed, then the natural healing life energy that normally flows through can circulate in harmony and balance.

Once again I have faith that science can distinguish the difference between false faith healing that fails (because it is superficial and does not invoke the spiritual changes of forgiveness as in truly effective healing) and the factor that makes the real healing and recovery work -- the forgiveness factor or letting go, as in AA and other grief/recovery programs, not just in deliverance/exorcism which is specifically used for generational healing on unconscious levels.

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