Shut your face!
Turncoat: My personal accounts are for real messages with topic content.
I used temp accounts to reply and address temp trolls/socks so those are separate. (I also used those temp accounts to bump up good posts so the forum doesn't look spammed or flooded. Since I was accused of trying to take over.)
Since you are very thoughtful and analyze deeply, can you bump up the DEEPER topic threads so it's not just me?
If you, Spatial and others bump up the serious threads, no one will question your motives as you jump all over me.
"My personal accounts are for real messages with topic content. I used temp accounts to reply and address temp trolls/socks so those are separate. (I also used those temp accounts to bump up good posts so the forum doesn't look spammed or flooded. Since I was accused of trying to take over.)"
But why? We all know it's you, why not just post as you?
"Since you are very thoughtful and analyze deeply, can you bump up the DEEPER topic threads so it's not just me?"
No, I hate bumps. If I have something to "bump", I try to respond to somebody. The place shouldn't require "tidying up" beyond sorting through spam, maybe.
RE: But why? We all know it's you, why not just post as you?
1. I was trying to save my regular acct/avatar for serious msg on topic. "emilynghiem" for longer msgs (especially personal issues with members or forum related) "TARA" for shorter topic/content posts (not personal/forum related)
2. I use the "temp accounts" to reply to puppets and trolls to try to work things out and get them to post normally if they are real. So these "names/avatars" are designed based on the name/avatar that is posting. These are just temp accts.
When spam msgs are deleted, these disappear with them, so it is clear those are "temp" and not regular member posts.
3. In general my intent has been misunderstood as wanting to draw attention to myself. So it does not help to have my regular avatar posted "all over the forum." You wouldn't be able to tell my topic posts from the "temp interactions."
I am using this blank avatar because this convo is off topic. We should really be having this convo in PM so it doesn't pop up in other threads. If we were speaking on topic, I would use either "TARA" for SP issues or "emilynghiem" for personal. Thanks. You are a very discerning person, and I am sorry I misjudged you as not caring to resolve things.
by TARA
by Turncoat"(Though Ana was still "blaming me" for trying to address spammers, thinking this would make it worse.)"
Spammers and trolls feed on attention.Notice the TWO different types of attention:
(A). When Hypercube really ASKED and LISTENED to Wilful, then he replied. When I told Dexter if "he was not a troll then he should stop posting like one." He actually posted out his words instead of those dots. Then he went away.
NOTICE THIS WAS POSITIVE, HYPERCUBE WAS TRYING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM
Heck, it was even possible to work out conflicts with Shark Bait since that was a Member of this forum, not some outside troller shopping for trouble. If we had PM we could resolve the issues with MEMBERS, perhaps in advance.
(B). When people start "triangulating" and projecting on others, then NO that is the WRONG kind of attention which the troller "wants to stir up." To distract everyone else from the other threads that are serious.
NOTICE THIS WAS NEGATIVE, PEOPLE WHO START COMPLAINING FEED THE TROLL INSTEAD OF CORRECTING
THAT'S WHY I TRY TO IDENTIFY IF IT IS A MEMBER WHO RESPONDS TO APPROACH (A), AND AVOID TYPE (B).
Again if we had PM we could settle this directly with the MEMBER instead of using public threads. But until we have PM, using this thread to hash out PERSONAL issues between ALL MEMBERS would keep it on ONE THREAD.
Are you OK with using this THREAD to
(1) resolve issues with Edvard and Spatial Mind ?
(2) resolve issues with me when I was using other temp accounts to work things out with Wilful and other temp accts.
(3) Wilful has two threads for trying to work things out with him. he is still posting the conflicts but not the solutions. so he is still thriving if we fall for response (2) instead of IGNORING that and just FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS INSTEAD
Turncoat there is some chaos that is natural but there is some that is better off resolved.
A natural wildfire helps to kill off the dead wood so new trees can replenish the forest. But a wildfire out of control destroys everything in its path and has to be contained.
I think we can enjoy more of the natural chaos and attract more interest and diversity by resolving the root issues between members that don't serve any good purpose. Can we use this thread for that?
(C) the ultimate goal is when we aren't affected at all, when we have no conflicts between us (where ANYTHING can push our buttons or stir up reactions) then this forum can become troll proof without any need for moderation.
Trolls will not come here if everyone agrees how to respond. Either work it out in PM using (A) or ignore to avoid (B).
by Jesus ChristRE: But why? We all know it's you, why not just post as you?
1. I was trying to save my regular acct/avatar for serious msg on topic. "emilynghiem" for longer msgs (especially personal issues with members or forum related) "TARA" for shorter topic/content posts (not personal/forum related)
2. I use the "temp accounts" to reply to puppets and trolls to try to work things out and get them to post normally if they are real. So these "names/avatars" are designed based on the name/avatar that is posting. These are just temp accts.
When spam msgs are deleted, these disappear with them, so it is clear those are "temp" and not regular member posts.
3. In general my intent has been misunderstood as wanting to draw attention to myself. So it does not help to have my regular avatar posted "all over the forum." You wouldn't be able to tell my topic posts from the "temp interactions."
I am using this blank avatar because this convo is off topic. We should really be having this convo in PM so it doesn't pop up in other threads. If we were speaking on topic, I would use either "TARA" for SP issues or "emilynghiem" for personal. Thanks. You are a very discerning person, and I am sorry I misjudged you as not caring to resolve things.
DOES EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MAKE HAVE TO BE SO LONG AND FULL OF SHIT EVERY TIME.
FUCK, I JUST SKIP YOUR POSTS EVERY TIME I SEE YOUR SHIT BECAUSE I KNOW THERES ZERO VALUE IN THE WHOLE DAMN THING.
LEARN.
TO.
SIMPLIFY. bitch
by emilynghiemTurncoat: My personal accounts are for real messages with topic content.
I used temp accounts to reply and address temp trolls/socks so those are separate.
You are the same person behind every one of those accounts you use and everybody knows it's you, regardless of which account you're on, so responding with other accounts is completely pointless.
I mean, seriously, how childish do you have to be to keep responding with separate accounts, when you could simply respond on your main.
Grow up.
I already explained why it causes problems, TK.
The same way Wilful agreed NOT to post his socks on SERIOUS THREADS.
My "TARA" avatar/account should ONLY be used to post SERIOUS replies to SP TOPIC POSTS/THREADS.
The rest are for non SP related issues. And any accounts to hash issues out with trolls are temporary so they can be deleted. I don't want my serious posts deleted, so I post them under my serious account name/avatar. is this clear.
"1. I was trying to save my regular acct/avatar for serious msg on topic. "emilynghiem" for longer msgs (especially personal issues with members or forum related) "TARA" for shorter topic/content posts (not personal/forum related)"
...this is your reasoning for it, but it's still not an actual reason. If you posted as just Emily, it'd be the same. If it's shorter, I'm barely noticing the length difference. Why do you feel different content deserves different puppets, because wilful does that? Is that really who you want to emulate?
"2. I use the "temp accounts" to reply to puppets and trolls to try to work things out and get them to post normally if they are real. So these"names/avatars" are designed based on the name/avatar that is posting. These are just temp accts."
...I fail to see how posting on a "temp account" makes a difference that posting as Emily wouldn't accomplish as well. All you're doing is contributing to the problem, enabling the problem. Your puppets make you treated less seriously, which, if you're aiming to make discussions become serious, you're combating your own cause.
"3. In general my intent has been misunderstood as wanting to draw attention to myself. So it does not help to have my regular avatar posted "all over the forum." You wouldn't be able to tell my topic posts from the "temp interactions.""
But we know it's you. You think a different account name and avatar will make you appear to be attention whoring less? Are you really attempting to manipulate public appearance that poorly?
"We should really be having this convo in PM so it doesn't pop up in other threads."
Why? Do you have something to hide?
"If we were speaking on topic, I would use either "TARA" for SP issues or "emilynghiem" for personal."
But we know it's you! It's just you trying to find a way to sort your own posts into categories, like you wish the rest of the forum would do.