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There is no set way of manipulation, its diffrent from person to person, so a guide on how to manipulate is quite difficult to make

If it doesn't come naturally then it's best you don't try it.

Yeah, it will be a lot more difficult if it doesn't come naturally to you

I've always been a manipulative person, ever since about puberty, really. What I mean to say is, I'm looking to improve and become better. I feel like I'm too erratic and spontaneous, I'll never be able to control myself If I don't learn a set of skills and methods, as opposed to continuing like some kind of nomad. I feel like If I was able to learn some kind of focused social psychology, I'd be able to put on a mask and play the part.. whereas at the moment, if somebody I'm possessive over starts to break free, questions me in a way that triggers my insecurities, inadequacies or whatever, I lose control and become angry. It's these moments of visceral anger that are the most experienced 'emotions' for me. More of a case of, I can cook a decent curry - but I don't know why I can, it does not make sense to me, and if I learned the science / art or whatever, I could create something altogether more impressive.

cheers

Ah, now i get what you mean. I can't think of any books, but i would reccomend my favourite activity, people watching. Its not as creepy as it sounds, you just watch people in a busy place, and learn the appropriate reactions, and what people like to hear/do, and use this to help you with your anger. It also helps to observe your 'target' for a while, learn their responses and reactions, and use this to mold your actions

by Fourteen

I've always been a manipulative person, ever since about puberty, really.

 Really... only since puberty?

I figured out how to manipulate people much earlier than that.

by Fourteen

I've always been a manipulative person, ever since about puberty, really. What I mean to say is, I'm looking to improve and become better. I feel like I'm too erratic and spontaneous, I'll never be able to control myself If I don't learn a set of skills and methods, as opposed to continuing like some kind of nomad. I feel like If I was able to learn some kind of focused social psychology, I'd be able to put on a mask and play the part.. whereas at the moment, if somebody I'm possessive over starts to break free, questions me in a way that triggers my insecurities, inadequacies or whatever, I lose control and become angry. It's these moments of visceral anger that are the most experienced 'emotions' for me. More of a case of, I can cook a decent curry - but I don't know why I can, it does not make sense to me, and if I learned the science / art or whatever, I could create something altogether more impressive.

 

cheers

 Dear 14: If you study and learn how people trigger your weaknesses, then you can figure out others.

It boils down to which issues you (or other people) carry unresolved from your mother or father or past relations.

Mommy issues tend to affect honest communications free of emotional judgment (also resolving family relations will help you improve your communication with others if you fix these issues first that are most sensitive)

Daddy issues tend to project onto issues of control, authority, change etc. (these surface most in romantic relations)

Which issues do you carry? Fix your own first, then you will see how these affect everyone else.

About manipulation in general, it seems people do this by getting into someone's space, offering to help them. Then find out enough information to hold against them, and then use that as leverage to push them around.

I don't agree with this because it takes more energy to keep track of problems instead of solving them. Why not invest the same work in getting people's support freely and naturally without games or coercion. Why not invest energy in building real relations to help you more in the longrun instead of false relations that burn out after all that work?

I find it better to protect YOURSELF against manipulations by resolving your own issues so no one can play these games with you. That take full time work, but you are investing in yourself and in successful relations, so it pays off.

What you do is.  You drive your hoop-ride up real close to someone right.  You get out and say, give me all your fucking money right now, and your socks and underwear also...don't look at me like that bitch, I said NOW!!!

Gotta survive in the hood, noh waat i meen playa

Dear Cain_

The last friend of mine who tried that "direct approach" got the opposite, drove up to a gang of guys hanging out in the hood where I live. Offered them a gun and thousands of dollars to shoot him cuz he wanted to die.

They preached at him that he would go to hell and talked him out of killing himself. Just a 90 pound teenager who was sick and tired of fighting his abusive parents who were pushing religion on him till he lost his will to live.

So you often get the opposite of what you ask.

The key is to make the person do and ask things based on what THEY want.

Good people with good intent will try to find what you want and help you get it.

People will ill intent will use the same methods but abuse it for their own gain against your best interests.

Fourteen: If you don't like people pushing your buttons to manipulate you, then don't do this to other people.

You can study the same process, learn how manipulation works, but use this knowledge to protect yourself.

if you keep your conscience clear of anything negative, you will also be a more effective productive person

than if you tie up any of your mental space and energy in negative things to cause problems for others.

Why waste that on other people in ways that won't last, when you can invest in yourself and relations that will?