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"When a person remains in an abusive relationship after being abused the first time, they deserve everything they get there after."

Depends on the nature of the abuse. Some abuse is subtler and harder to recognize, while others may have an unexpected response to it they don't 100% understand when it first occurs, or even after it continues. It can put a fog of sorts over one's thinking until it's gone, especially if it targets their past guilt or insecurities.

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I was talking about those who aren't masochists, who don't enjoy the abuse on any level. My mother certainly didn't enjoy it from what I could tell.

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It goes much further than just masochism. Some have buttons they are blind to, and others might happen to push those buttons. People being abused or manipulated might not immediately recognize it, which can let those tendrils wriggle even further into the person's mind.

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Hi Turncoat: I agree there are different levels of denial and suppression, some semi-conscious and some completely unconscious or subconscious. [that's why I have this interest in studying the different methods of recovery and healing, from the AA steps to regression therapy or generational healing prayer, to identify these unconscious triggers and resolve them instead of letting people get manipulated by deep rooted fears or conflicts that may pass down from previous generations, carried unconsciously]

I had an experience where I felt knowledge that was "always buried or carried" unconsciously in my conscience, suddenly burst into my conscious mind. it was NOT ideas introduced from outside. It felt like it was uncovered from within, that it had been "blocked" from my access, but after that blockage was removed this understanding came out.

I made up the word "abheld" to describe it, because it was not "withheld" information physically from outside manipulation. It felt like an internal mechanism blocking and unblocking access to this knowledge from "within" the conscience. I felt it was a "spiritual" process, the timing was part of the "order" of stages in life to work out karma.

So because of "past karma" that wasn't resolved, my conscience had been blocked from seeing things in advance or they wouldn't have happened. I didn't know karma worked on that level; I thought karma was just things in the physical world, but this was affecting my choices and logic by biasing my perceptions and my conscience.

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