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Aidan and IAIO (and others)


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Dear Aidan and IOIA: Regarding this trend to use/abuse people/relations like disposable resources, I had 3-4 points that I wanted to share with you. Do you relate to any of these? Since you are both objectively honest and intelligent, I value your feedback on these points. I will list them here, then break them up into 4 separate msgs for any replies.

A. drawing strength from preserving not destroying relationships with parents

B. legally or logistically keeping good relations to back you up when things go wrong

C. love interests in the future, keeping your baggage count low and attracting the right people
 who meet your needs

D. overall resources expended or wasted if we create more problems than we solve

I will start with A here, then post separate msgs for the others to organize this better.

A. parental relations

As humans we draw our spiritual strength, health and longevity from our connections with our parents/ancestry.

The strongest family lines fare better than generations with broken family lines.

Compare property owning families or government/business patriarchs with the genocide committed against Native Americans or Africans by wiping out their family connections and knowledge of their heritage and names/heritage.

So if you want to succeed in life and get what you want

it is better for your conscience, your mental emotional and physical strength and continuity

to have solid stable relations that honor the parents and elders, especially to resolve past conflicts

so that you draw from the best strengths while conquering the worst weaknesses

So my advice to you is to check to make sure you do not shoot yourself in the foot

by doing things that diminish or cut off these bonds. You can achieve a lot more, even doing what you already

want to do, by preserving these ties and drawing on that strength working with you, not against each other.

This is one way to maximize your strength, and to overcome issues where others don't use that against you first

Do you agree this is practical wisdom that works for all people, regardless of our path in life?

 

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 B. Legal and logistic reasons to invest in good faith relations not destroying all of them for short term gain

given how stupid people are in judging people by their pasts, stereotypes and perceptions/impressions,

wouldn't it be more beneficial for you to keep good relations to back you up, especially if you are going to take risks?

Even the bad guys would do this.

Like padding your resume with stuff that will get you by, if you plan to cut corners.

If you create nothing but trails of misery and enemies, then if someone decides to back stab you,

who are people going to believe? the person who appears to have stable friends and background.

Or the person with a negative history who can be easily judged for that and assumed to be in the wrong.

Whether you are guilty of a crime or not, you increase your chances of not being believed if you don't watch your background and reputation. If you have no friends or family to back you up.

Purely for legal reasons I would be more careful to make sure you don't paint yourself in a corner.

is this part of the game you play? do you account for this factor or not?

regardless if you do wrong or right, by accident or on purpose, it helps to have a back up plan an alibi.

but if you burn all your bridges and have no support, who do you turn to if something goes wrong?

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 Because Aidan mentioned only being 18 and IAIO boasted of sleeping with someone to break up a couple, I am posting this to you from the viewpoint of someone who cares about you the way your mother or future wife would

C. future love interests

do you think about the baggage you will create and what kind of people or trouble you will attract, instead of attracting and growing in relationships with people you truly can be yourself around for longterm?

I just helped my bf edit a video made by the bf of his youngest niece, who just adores her so much he even put together a corny music video with photos of them, and footage of him playing his guitar to "their song". They joked how gay this way, totally not what he would do, but he did it for her. it's their 5th year anniversary of dating and he wanted to give her something so special she would cry.

Why can't all people have someone they love that much, someone they can do whatever crazy shit feels good at the time and know this person has their back. He said things in that video I don't see people put into words. He said he was lucky to find his best friend he could laugh or cry with, and just say or do anything with.

Aidan, IAIO I would want you to have someone special like that in your life.

Someone who loves you the way you are, flaws and all, where you don't have to mess with games at all.

You can make up new games to play that are fun and don't hurt anyuone

I have another story about a friend who did all kinds of mean ugly things, hurting and using women as a death metal rocker in the 80s. women threw themselves at him. in his own words, he didn't know anyone who wouldn't fuck each other's boyfriends or girlfriends.

he thought that's what he wanted.

Now he wants a totally different person who doesn't want that stuff. And he fears he can never have it.

So I don't want you to end up like my friend. He even turned down some girl he met online that threw herself at him. But she was not the one he wanted and he felt bad. He couldn't get what he wanted either way.

So please if you are going to play games and take risks

find some ways to do it that don't set you up to fail later, with baggage and garbage to sort through

that will keep you from moving forward and getting what you really want and deserve.

Can you find a better way to get your thrills, where you don't compromise or cut short your future options?

 

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D. One last point which will probably appeal the least to you

When you go abuse people and create more problems or make them worse than before

This is taking energy time and resources away from problems already existing

This takes resources away from all of us

So instead of having enough charity resources to take care of abused poor people,

we waste even more freedom, energy etc. abusing relations and creating more screwed up people and situations.

 

Everyone I know, on both sides of the political spectrum, complain complain complain about why taxpayers work so hard to fund social welfare or corporate welfare or prisons or other failed govt handouts for dependent families.

If we resolved all the family and community relations we already had, these people could generate their own support and resources to support themselves.

but instead, why create even more drama and messed up garbage?

in the end we all pay for it.

We pay trillions for war we cannot afford.

Political groups are arguing against enslaving future generations (that's you) with tax burdens and problems

we can't afford to fix at this rate.

so it is causing problems for you by adding to the pool.

we would have plenty to go around, and wouldn't have to struggle and compete so much

if we used our minds and energy to solve more problems than we caused

if we could take on those kind of challenges, you can create jobs doing that and succeed quite well in life

Since you are both so intelligent and objective, I'd love to share ideas on what challenges interest you if any.

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by emilynghiem

As humans we draw our spiritual strength, health and longevity from our connections with our parents/ancestry.

 Bullshit.

Parents are only useful as a tool of survival until we can fend for ourselves.

I never connected with either of my parents and I certainly don't give a shit about a bunch of dead people that make up my ancestry.

I carved my own path in life and drew strength from standing on my own two feet. My family didn't give me that. Hell, my mother wouldn't even care if I died.

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 Just.... wow.

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 Emily you blow my mind.

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 Hi Thrill Kill:

So if your mom and dad were independent, did their own thing and didn't need you either.

Maybe you do have that type of independence in the family.

One of my friends is very strong and stubborn and independent.

His daughter is like that, very tough, if she makes dumb mistakes she lives with the mess she makes.

He was trying to avoid passing down to her some of the stuff he went through.

Spiritually some of it repeated anyway.

And sometimes it skips a generation; and patterns from the grandparents repeat with the grandkids.

The karma passes down until it works its way out of the system, sometimes 4 to 5 generations.

or you can decide to break the cycle, to confront and overcome the patterns if you don't like what you are given.

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Wait what exactly are you asking of us?  Like if we value our relationships with our family members or think that they can benefit us in ways other than tangible goods?  If so I think that it depends on the individual, as some may require that emotional connection and support and others may not.

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Wait what exactly are you asking of us?  Like if we value our relationships with our family members or think that they can benefit us in ways other than tangible goods?  If so I think that it depends on the individual, as some may require that emotional connection and support and others may not.

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