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Age of Empires FTW

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 its like a kid figuring out how to take a shit in a toilet, then seeing them so proud of an accomplishment everyone else learned so many years ago... adoable luna... adorables... :) pinches her cheeks

I would really like to understand how our system here in USA has evolved through time as capitalism has taken it's effect on our society.

I believe a great way to demonstrate this effect is with a graph showing all major industries, and the percentage of American population employed in each industry through time.

I've created a graph that starts this data by plotting American farming industry from 1840 through the year 2000. It shows a drop from 70% of the population as farmers, to around 2.5% in 2000. Where did all the workers go? What jobs did they take on to replace the new jobs?

I'm looking for information that can help me fill in this data for the other industries. I haven't really found anything yet. So if anyone could help me, I really think this information would help me understand capitalism better, and perhaps you guys too because I'll certainly share the findings!

Or perhaps if this graph has already been done, I would be so happy to see it so please link!

Love,

Luna

A. Dear Luna: My lil sister's husband just LOVED the board game Settlers of Cattan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Settlers_of_Catan

It is challenging to design games where the factors balance each other, and this did a good job.

B. As for capitalism vs cooperative economics vs. top down/centralized socialism/communism/etc.

Whichever system people choose to represent/govern themselves

B1. some of the critical KEY factors are CONSENT (including conflict resolution) so ppl are included equally

(not divided by conflict and controlled by a third party that monopolizes control by church/state authority/money)

B2. and whether the members/group operate by ABUNDANCE mentality or SCARCITY mentality.

Regardless if an operation claims to be capitalistic OR socialistic, if the people running it operate on

"SCARCITY" mentality the competition becomes "unfair" and the flow of resources "unbalanced."

When people operated by ABUNDANCE mentality, you invest in relations and service to others FIRST,

and that returns and builds on itself. When capitalism is done right, this works. Only when people get

greedy and start hoarding for power and control (especially monopolizing knowledge of the laws/rules)

then the disparity and oppression become unlivable. So capitalism doesn't cause this, but fear of scarcity.

C. If you can create a game that teaches the difference between abundance/scarcity mentality

I'd like to see that. Most ppl can't get this concept unless they experience both sides of it and compare.

If you can "simulate" that concept in a GAME, then this can teach more people the difference. Thanks, Luna

I have another idea but I will share by email if that's better. Your ideas are great and so is this web forum!

 You're right, that would be quite the educational game! Hopefully some day :)

RE: education factor

What correlation can be shown between the development/growth of "capitalism" and the democratization of "education" of people in laws of government and finance to become participating owners and entrepreneurs in society?

I guess this is like asking which came first the chicken or the egg? 

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Where I believe society is heading is toward self-government through sustainable communities and business/school cooperatives, mixing education with work-study and social services.

Otherwise, if we keep depending on "top down" management by the few over the masses, the politics get corrupted.

The analogy I make is the same way "individuals" develop from dependents in a household under parental authority

to teenage/young adult sustaining on their own or in groups where they run their own households/businesses,

Society collectively is also going through this learning curve. America broke from the parent country of GB to become independent, similar to how teenagers break from the parents to live on their own. Next, a state or a city will "break off" from a larger group and incorporate as a separate entity to govern itself, when it has that ability to.

I guess this is more "political" development, though the same "educational access" to equal knowledge of "govt laws" and of "economics" determines if people become self-governing, or remain "dependent" on some centralized authority ruling for them.

three major types of laws I have found make the difference if people are dependent or independent:

knowledge of spiritual laws

knowledge of legal system/govt

* knowledge of financial/property ownership/management

(today: credit, financing, investment. And someone added to my list: technical access/knowledge and media)

I'm not sure if you can study just "financial development" out of context with the other factors.

Human growth depends on "making these equally accessible," and if people are weak in 2 areas, they get oppressed by those with greater "access."

If you are weak in only 1 area, you can still get help to overcome that imbalance, but 2-3 means "less than equal"

Capitalism might worsen the disparity by monopolizing/commercializing "access to knowledge" so only some people benefit.

So what is the trend with making "education" and HANDS ON training/experience "accessible to more/all people"?

Wouldn't this be a key factor in development?