What is more important? Having control over a person or the challenge of getting control?
In other words, who do you focus on? Someone who can be easily manipulated or go for the challenge of someone who will not be easily fooled?
The best is being able to control someone who is highly intelligent, I was recently seeing this girl who was attending college, prelaw, she was sharp, yet I could manipulate her into loaning me money on a regular basis, having power over her was much more of a thrill than manipulating some dumb bimbo.
It depends on the situation.
If I'm looking to manipulate someone for amusement purposes, I prefer a challenge. But if I'm manipulating someone to gain their trust, so that I have control over them or so that they will give me something I desire, then I go for the easy target because I like instant gratification.
by Thrill KillIt depends on the situation.
If I'm looking to manipulate someone for amusement purposes, I prefer a challenge. But if I'm manipulating someone to gain their trust, so that I have control over them or so that they will give me something I desire, then I go for the easy target because I like instant gratification.
Translation: i even find it a challenge to win an argument with my vibrator...
Teaching people about their own fallibility and showing them the way to overcome it, is the most pleasurable form of satisfying a desire to use people.
That involves taking away from them what they fear, then replacing it with purpose and desire.
Beware though.
It's a one way street, as the reconstruction tends to be irreversible.
The challenge to me is forming a consensus with each person. The benefits of learning how to do so, especially with people of opposite ways, beliefs, etc., make both people stronger. Sometimes that process involves crushing both people, breaking through false shells and barriers/fronts put up for security. So it humbles both people in the process.
I don't think we choose this. I believe the process chooses us, and we meet and go through these changes.
So the more powerful, effective people are the ones who recognize the process and know the rules and work with what is happening anyway. The ones with fear or ill will will have less clarity and knowledge/wisdom than the ones who approach the process openly, without any such selfish bias or ill intent which limits or can cloud judgment.
The most pure hearts and minds will be able to see through the limits of other people, the past and future, and know better how to interact to be the most effective and productive in getting everyone what they want.
So that to me is the challenge, not only to find the other people who are easier to work with because they know what's going on, so we can team up quickly and share notes; but to also work with people who think least alike, and overcome those conflicts so we can both learn and move to higher levels in the process.
I love to find the easy people to connect with, like finding an oasis of water in the desert.
But the reality is most of the process is working through tough conflicts and differences, in order to grow. Since these challenges are more common, I've learned to enjoy them. Again I don't believe this is chosen but part of the plan. We do not choose how the script is written, how the characters are designed, or the timing of the scenes. We just follow and deal the best we can with what is playing out on life's stage. And again, those who understand how the script is orchestrated, and do not abuse the knowledge for ill, will be more at peace than others who fear control by others and thus play games trying to beat the system instead of working it more effectively.
Isn't it a two way street in the sense that both people change for the better in tandem? That we coinfluence each other when we share, and it's not just one way, but give and take - two way? or three way in cases where the changes involve a triangulated relationship or conflict, so this influences other people indirectly.
V have you really ever facilitated a change in someone that didn't also change you in the process?
Time doesn't go back for people, except in their heads.
It was not my purpose to propose that I do not change myself in the process, but to show that once a process is started, no matter what, it reaches its conclusion.
And you better be aware of the conclusions and learn from them.