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Then again, what do I know?

I'm just a silly wizard playing at being everything.

All I know, is that foolishness is not a disease, nor is it a condition.

It's simply a singular part of the balance to your own understanding of what kind of reality really afflicts you.

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Something useful? Probably more about myself but all of that is in threads passed. 

If that had been the reason you were here I would have tried to talk to you, I'm sure, but after seeing posts by others in that situation I've come to think that everyone just has to ride it out for themselves.The grooming process is so meticulous (or was in my case) that it's not as easy as unraveling string to break free of the web created. Someone telling you that you have to leave isn't enough. The bad has arrive so that it's like you wake up finally. 

Anyway. I hope you do get what you need for your book. :) 

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Just take it one detail at a time.

Make sure to find a relaxing moment in between.

And don't forget to create some chaos you can fix, from time to time.

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 1. Personally - If you want to study how to connect/direct people spiritually, you would need to assess their fears, which conflicts with which people/groups they DON'T want to confront or resolve. Then you insert yourself into that equation. Most conflicts involve 'triangulation' or some third party that benefits from the conflict not getting resolved. Find out what it is they fear, and jump in and become the party that protects them or controls them and they will lean on you.

PS. political parties and media do this with people, find out the bogeyman that people are afraid they can't protect themselves from, and oppose/expose that.

2. Politically/Economically - find out where people are in terms of what steps or stages they are in to become economically or politically independent. Most people are not fully independent. So if you can find the areas that they "need outside help from others" then you can use that to hook and control them. Learn from watching how politicians buy and sell each other out. Either bribery or blackmail or both.

3. Spiritually the right way to gain people's respect where you influence them naturally is to help people to overcome their fears and weaknesses/conflicts holding them back or making them vulnerable to attack or manipulation. When you have their best interests at heart, then God and the forces of life and love help you to help others help themselves. that force is the strongest influence of all but it is often meek. it is humbling to know we need each other and none of us is in control, but part of a larger process governing us all. when you have this knowledge and share it instead of abusing it, that is the strongest influence.

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 I'm sorry, Miss, I think you are asking for something else.

I see things in terms of people belonging "with" each other not "to."

So my answers will not help you.

Scott Peck wrote 2 books on the nature of evil on how people cover up for a conflict or weakness by inviting evil to possess them. "People of the Lie" and "Glimpses of the Devil". The solutions to deliver people from these spiritual possessions or oppression are best explained in "Healing" by Francis MacNutt.

Have you looked up sites for people recovering from cult or religious abuse. Look up Scientology or Jehovah's Witnesses for testimonies or forums explaining what ppl went through to have someone take them over where they were slaves to these people's thinking and teaching and couldn't break free. They were practically brainwashed to demonize anyone who dissented or opposed.

Most if it is manipulating people by their fear or guilt, things they think other people will judge them for, so they turn to someone who makes them feel safe. Fear of never getting approval or acceptance, so they substitute someone else.

If you look up the scarcity mentality, vs abundance mentality, that's another way of explaining the difference between people who can be tricked into become dependent vs. the ones who live and work independently.

PS the last time someone manipulated me to trust him to follow his instructions that turned out wrong, he convinced me "not to tell the boss" because the boss did not like my friends who were experts in certain areas of law. So he used that as an excuse, saying he wanted to hire these people to do some work on the side but the boss would not pick them, so he was going through me to hire them. Based on that, I followed his instructions. So he used an "unresolved conflict" and people separated from each other to step in and manipulate where we would not know what the other was doing. So this is an example of third-party manipulation, making me think I was getting hired work for my friends that they wouldn't normally get just because my boss didn't trust them.

The cults work similarly, by demonizing others as bad or unenlightened, and making people think they are better off with this group or information that will save them from the evils in the world that has "everyone else blinded."

So by giving people "partial truth" like telling them the problems without telling them the solution, you make them think "you know something most people don't" but you don't tell them everything either. EX: showing or giving someone viruses on their computer where they keep depending on you to fix them, but you don't tell them how to prevent them or how to fix the problem themselves.

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by Turncoat

I prefer to be the one behind someone powerful as opposed to being the powerful one myself. The adviser behind the queen is more fitting for me than being the king in a relationship.

I love confidence, brutality, and someone who can best me in things I enjoy. I love to be in awe of who I'm with, since for me, that's rare. If I'm looking down on who I'm with, I don't respect them enough to deem it a real relationship. I like someone I can challenge instead of someone who buckles at the sight of it, and when the challenge is accepted, I love it when I lose. Sometimes though... who I'm with needs to be groomed into that someone, but by the end of it all they're stronger people as opposed to just latent potential.

I get that too sometimes. It doesn't happen often, and when it does, I'm surprised myself. Really getting in touch with my submissive side thanks to you Turn, lmao.

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