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Using guilt without feeling it?


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Do any of you use guilt as a tool and still not feel it?

Recently I used the idea of guilt to enact the final part of my plan to push my "best friend" away from his girlfriend. I say plan, but really it was a poorly orchestrated attempt to get them to break up I have been working on for at least over a year.

Anyway, I slept with my best friends girlfriend in order to get them to break up. I figured that the guilt would push the girl to break up with him or at least admit it to him which would cause him to leave her, but when neither of those things occurred nearly a month after they began (I fucked her on multiple occasions) I decided to (once again) take matters into my own hands by admitting my guilt to this friend. I figured the only way I could get them to break up without getting punched in the face (because saying, "Hey dude, I fucked your girl." is not how you avoid conflict and I'm not partial to violence.) would be playing the guilt card and telling my freind. It went PERFECTLY. He responded the way I expected he would and broke up with her. I did this all without really caring about my friend or the girl (whom I was kind of leading on) all I cared about was that they were broken up in the end. I have no qualms or regrets about this.

Do any of you have similar experiences, or ideas on this situation. I can broaden the context much more upon request.

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Using guilt without feeling it?

Uh, good job? 

Is there a question? Of course if you use guilt, you probably wouldn't feel guilty about it

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Using guilt without feeling it?

 Yes, the question was whether people here have had similar experiences in which they used faked guilt as a tool to make someone feel a certain way. I was also asking for general discussion regarding the ideas in my post.

By what you're saying people who admit guilt don't feel guilty? I know the girl who I slept with still feels guilty about it. I guess I'm just trying to explore the idea of guilt at work in my own life to deduce whether sociopathy plays a part in my personality or not. Researcher bias in mind, I'm asking for other opinions.

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 A fine example of why honesty and forgiveness rules. Unfortunately for your friend and his ex, it did not come into play, so now they find themselves in discomfort, doing things the way some unworthy cock block has them living.

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 I meant that if you use guilt as a tool, you are less likely to actually feel guilty doing it.  I have a friend who uses guilt on me all the time to manipulate me into behaving a certain way. I have often put myself in his shoes to understand where he's coming from. he has sociopathic traits - a lot, specifically a lack of guilt. He does have an intellectual conscience that tells him how to act, though. This often confuses me. Sorry, I'm rambling and I haven't helped you at all. I'll stop now. 

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 Ah, you're drawing a false conclusion due to the lack of context. The girl is in discomfort, I know this. The friend on the other hand, he's now in a more comfortable position. He has gotten rid of his cheating girlfriend and his backstabbing "best friend" who was never really there for him in the first place. He has the opportunity to progress his life in ways she was holding him back.

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 Lmao, you're good. I see what you mean though. Almost like using guilt to achieve something and not feeling it as a byproduct. How well do you know this friend, and what are some of his other sociopathic traits? Are you Certain he's a sociopath, or still trying to figure it out?

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 Also, nice change in inflection. Your first post came off standoff-ish, and this post had an ending that would provoke a sympathetic response,"Sorry, I'm rambling and I haven't helped you at all. I'll stop now." Hence my, "you're good, lmao" (to ease the tension, perhaps?) An interesting ploy, using the tactics you describe your friend using, or am I trying to read too much into it? The world may never know.


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 The girl was left in discomfort. And the so called friend got ditched too, was that his plan ?

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Using guilt without feeling it?

Was that who's plan? My friends plan, or my plan?

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