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Completely moral seduction


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I wanna know how to be a better person and nice guy and get girls to like me as a friend. Thanks for any advice, it is much appreciated. I love all of you.

Edit: oh yeah, here is a photo of me:

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Is that why women don't want to be friends with me? What can I do?

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usually that wouldnt be the case, in my experience there are plenty of women still attracted to your general physique, and if they are unwilling to befriend you they could have an alterior motive, or it could be some aspect of your personality putting them off.

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Hmm.... Well maybe they are indeed attracted to my physique, because I suggest to them that we hang out and then they invite me to their house. The next morning when I wake up I tell them we should just be friends, but then we end up starting another round. It's really frustrating. I even called a girl 14 times to make her think I was a stalker, but then she just came over and seduced me anyway.

Any more suggestions? Perhaps flowers will help?

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in that case i would suggest not engaging in sexual activity, since that seems to be what you want to avoid in the friendship, and have it be just a friendship, correct? i would go against the flowers, because they suggest intimacy. when you meet a girl you want to hang out with, i would make it clear that you dont have an intention to have a romantic or sexual relationship, and that you just want to be regular friends. it might be a little awkward, but it should get the point across.

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Well.... I suppose I am not quite sure. I don't really understand the normal view of friendship, but typically I would like to just talk and have women smile and hug me, which are things they do not really do.

Hmm, so I suggest right away that I have only intentions of friendship? The problem is, I am not sure if women would take me seriously or which kind of women to choose for this sort of thing. I told a woman actually a few weeks ago that I only wished to be friends, but she laughed in my face and started trying to make out with me. I just couldn't resist.

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yeah, saying that you want to be friends would be a good idea. and i guess it depends on the women you ask to take you seriously about it. another question, where do you typically find the women you ask to be friends? that might also have something to do with it

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Well I did go to a few bars and met some great, fun women. But that ended similarly to how I have described. I have a few neighbors in my apartment that I see around, for example with the laundry. I was getting my pants out of the dryer and a pleasant girl beside me started commenting on my clothing. I laughed and started joking around, but she started touching my arm and saying that I looked very good. I told her I would see her around, and then she invited me to a dinner party she was having. Later that night I was on my way back to my apartment and I noticed some people and remembered the party so I went in. It was really just a small get-together with a couple and a few women. I had some fun talking to them, but I left. Later that night the woman from the laundry room knocked on my door. It was obvious she was tipsy and she was still wearing her party dress, and she told me she was sad that I had left. I told her that the party hadn't really been my thing, but then she closed the door and sat down across from me. We started talking, and she began to rub my leg, and I decided I might as well take her to bed. Now I am concerned the neighbors may find out and ruin my chances of being friends with them.

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the location would be part of your problem. i wouldnt say all, but a lot of girls that go to bars are looking to get laid. if you talk to them, they easily assume that you want the same thing they do, and progress along that path for the remainder of the night. your neighbor seemed to want you carnally as well, and didnt seem super interested in you as a friend or person if she went straight to talking about your physical appearance. the touch on the arm seems to be a tell from her that she wanted you. about the neighbors finding out, i wouldnt be too worried, because there are probably only the two people that know about it, being you and her. and unless she has a big mouth, i doubt anyone would find out. as an added note, i wouldnt try to befreiend anyone under the influence, due to lowered inhibitions since youre trying to avoid that. 

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I just got back from a July 4th festival. There was a concert going on and everyone was dancing, so I joined in. I started dancing with a cute girl because she was smiling at me. I kept it very light and we were both smiling. Then I said, "Hey, we should be friends." She smiled and said, "Yeah, okay." Later we got into conversation, which was good. She was intelligent. I told her she was very smart, and I then suggested I take her number and that we should meet again because I had to go to the store. She said that she would really like that.

I think I am on the right track. We didn't have sex and we had a good conversation.

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