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That makes the pair of us.

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The original shroud of turin we know of was held by a feudal european family until it dissapeared, the one we have today surface one or two hundred years later during the rennaissance and didn't come close to matching the descriptions of the first one. Also there is evidence, though no proof, that leonardo de vinci made the current shroud using human blood as paint. It would have been made during his time working in a morgue. This also explains the afterimage you've mentioned.

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Christianity is one of the youngest religions in the world. It isn't a cult now but it certaintly started out that way.

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The muslims you are refering to are actually only about 15% of all muslims. Most muslims are Sunni, not shi'ite, and believe in the ressurection. They include jesus as one of their prophets and believe in the second coming. However they do not believe he was the messiah or the son of god.

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I think it's very telling that you completely ignored the main points that sugargirl made (I.e that the story of Jesus's ressurection is one of many during that period). In fact she pointed out that the shroud was irelevant since she wasn't claiming that Jesus didn't exist. 

It's also telling that you say you cannot be convinced by logic. Like most religious idiots you've decided what you will belief based purely on emotions and you look then for the evidence to back up what you have already decided. So given that as you say you cannot be convinced by logic clearly any evidence you present to back up any claim you make is completely negated since evidence serves a purely logical purpose, of which you have no need. 

Lastly, faith is never a personal matter. By claiming to be of one faith or another your attaching yourself to a world view or ideology that makes numrous claims with regards to how society should be run and how other's should live their lifes. So whilst anybody should be able to believe what they want they should never be immune to criticism. 

 

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Thats the reason I usually try to avoid debating with the religious. I normally fail and enter into a debate anyways but I always bite my tongue at first.

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i don't remember writing that. i would never willfully get into a debate about the existence of god. we can drop it like it's hot.

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If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife
and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life -- he
cannot be my disciple.

There was much work to do. What that means is, Christ needed full time workers, and anyone who sets higher priorities were not what he was looking for.

Would Christ take in haters ? Of course he will. In the end, they all did a fine job despite whatever dysfunctional happenings took places amongst them.

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Some say the Lord is a narcissist, but they are leaving out some detail. The Lord Jesus Christ loves unconditionally, and he suggests that we love and treat one another as though we are one. Because we are one.

We are beings having an experience here, not the other way around. Becoming attached to the ways and pleasures of this world will ground us.

Enjoy life, try everything good and bad if you wish, but before you die, let go of addictions and anything that will not be returning home with you. Regardless of what one believes, It is all tempoary and better rewards awaits us in our primal state of being.

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