Sociopath Community

Ha, this forum should have a convention. Almost everyone would show up in masks and nobody would tell anybody their real names or their screen names. It would be hilarious

Welcome to the forum, Lurch.

This is my oppinion, but sociopaths are more alive than normal humans! I think it is likely that "consciousness" is NOT the same as the mind. All animals have a mind. An information based system that makes decisions. These decisions are calculated without much thought. It's animalistic.

Consciousness, on the other hand, seems to be this awareness that "I" exist, yet the "I" cannot really be defined at all. I'd argue that the body controls consciousness as well as the mind with emotions.

The problem is that I don't think the Human is an individual. Everywhere we look in the world, we see humans who we can relate to. Yes, due to living in different envrionments and coming from different backgrounds, we find that our philosophies on life and humanity are diverse, but when you consider the underlying throught process that lead up to the conclusions drawn by humans, they are very much similar.

In truth though, I'd argue that our consciousness is universal. Much bigger than the individual. It's the animals of the world who see their own consciousness as this little universe in which only they live. Consider, though, all the cells living inside your body. Do you think they live to serve your existance, or you to serve theirs?

I'd argue that the relationship between consciousness and the human is a symbitoic relationship. Perhaps even a parasite if we consider the ways in which the body manipulates the mind so easily with chemicals that result in emotions.

I think when we look at planet Earth at night, what we see isn't just Humanity, and civilization, but a bacteria growing on the Earth. Slowly taking over. This bacteria isn't looking out for number 1, but over all works together to propogate itself. As a result of this, I'd argue the existance of a global, and more than likely universal consciousness that unites us all.

I'd argue that the "sociopath", when considered under the definition of a lack of emotions, is simply a consciousness less under the influence of the body's emotions. Less animal you might say, and certainly more alive.

I like this, I respectivly disagree with the collective conciousness theory you forward but its definitely food for thought.

that would be awesome. i'd go to that just to watch the chaos. somebody should start putting that together

The problem is theres alot less people on here then posters and I bet a bunch of people wouldn't show up and that would rob us of 2-5 posters for some of them.

Chances are very high that you've already met several sociopaths...

Ever heard of something called Defcon?

I get it.  But that doesn't really give me the opportunity to actually meet with a diagnosed sociopath face to face and compare my experience with them with the information on this website.  I speculate that this website 'romanticizes' sociopaths to a degree in order to create more curiosity on the subject.  In that regard, they have succeeded.  Because here I am.

I often have recollections of previous experiences based on things people tell me.  Again, it impressed me that sociopaths (supposedly) have the ability to look at you and instantly know who you REALLY are, and they see past your social presentation effortlessly.

One time I knew a girl who, everytime our group met up with hers, she was ALWAYS very fixated on me outside the context of the situation and would always refer to me as 'snowball' because she said I was a fluffy white cat.

Now....there was an element of truth to that.

There are alot of people who find my presence somewhat menacing because I'm 6'6, I have broad shoulders and a dark complextion.  However, I know myself to be the gentlest creature in the world and I'd never hurt anyone (who didn't deserve it).

I do wonder if this girl was a sociopath and that she instantly saw through my social stature for who I 'really' was.  Because she was always outside the context of the situation and 'very' fixated on me.

But again, this is just speculation.  She could've simply been a weirdo, because there are plenty of those.

Wow that was a mouth full.  I'm going to respond bit by bit...

"sociopaths are more alive than normal humans"

I can't comment on that because I don't know what it's like to be a sociopath.

""consciousness" is NOT the same as the mind"

I guess I would agree with that.

"Consciousness, on the other hand, seems to be this awareness that "I" exist, yet the "I" cannot really be defined at all"

Perhaps you're right.  I've always felt very real, but I can't really prove that outside of who I am.

"the body controls consciousness"

That's the biggest load of horse shit I've ever heard in my life.

"the mind with emotions."

That's irrelevant.

"The problem is that I don't think the Human is an individual. Everywhere we look in the world, we see humans who we can relate to."

From this point on you basically talk about how conciousness is more of a collective than an individual trait.

Well....obviously from a sociopath's persepective, that is what it would have to be.  A sociopath is only capable of experiencing conciousness as a result of relating to other people.

Whereas, from my perspective, I feel VERY real even when I'm alone.  However, relating to other people 'can' make me feel even more alive.  Not always.  Sometimes I feel like there are people who are like sociopaths in that they have no conciousness, but unlike sociopaths, they're not even aware that they don't, therefore, there's no connection and nothing to be alive with.

Now all that being said, I will be honest with you when I say, even though I'm curious about sociopaths, I have an inherint distrust for them.  There's a part of me that truly believes they will always say whatever they need to in order make empaths think certain things about them.  And that includes justifying their own consciousness.  The truth is, I don't need to justify my own consciousness to anyone.  I could spend the rest of my life alone and still feel alive.

Maybe someday, somehow, someway, I'll experience first hand what it's like to be a sociopath and then I can compare notes.