i have done both unintentionally
the astral projexting/OBE was very brief I was pulled back into my body a few seconds later
I've lucid dreamt quite a few times also unintentionally (It's a lot more common than astral projecting)
BUT over 20 percent of the human population has astral projected and astral travelled. This isnt a new phenomena either. Look online, there are thousands of websites dedicated to learning how to astral project and to Lucid dreams. Neither of these are insignificant crazy person shit. They are both very real and common phenomena no matter how unbelievable it may seem to those of you who have never experienced it yourselves
Along with starting ketamine I am going to now try to intentionally both Astral project and lucid dream. the goal is to eventually be doing both once a week. Im fucking done being trapped in my physical 5 sense reality it is boring and depressing the fuck out of me currently
Here is how to Astral Project: https://howtolucid.com/how-to-astral-project/
simply 'think' it. That's all it takes to return."