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 Christ's Birthday is June 17th 2 BC. ( It's important to note, "BC" stands for = Before Christ )

How do we know ? Astronomy software.

We have software that can calculate the positions of the planets in the solar system.

On a side note, planets are also considered stars in biblical terms due to their resemblance to the naked eye.

The 4 brightest objects in the sky from Earth's perspective..

1. The Sun

2. The Moon

3. Jupiter

4. Venus

But we're looking for the Star of Bethlehem right ?

First you need to look at what the Star of Bethlehem actually is, and.... It is a conjunction of Jupiter and Venus lining up with one another. If you ever saw Jupiter and Venus in the night sky, you might have wondered "What the hell is that bright star ?" It's one of those 2 and they are quite spectacular ( Last time I saw them from here was maybe in 2013-2014. It depends on their orbit. Jupiter in particular as far as I know is covered in daylight these days.

For an idea of how bright Jupiter and Venus are compared to the moon, skim through this, but nothing beats seeing it for yourself.

Using the software, we can see the planets positions, see solar eclipses etc... And we roll back to that day when Jupiter and Venus cross paths... And on that day.... Jupiter and Venus did indeed come together. I'm telling you these two objects are very bright. When they are in our night sky, they both stand out nice and sharp even with the light pollution. If we can see them connect, it will appear as a very bright star.

This event also happened in 1 BC, so some speculate that is the correct year.

The last time there was a conjunction between Venus and Jupiter was in 2015, but they never overlapped like it did in 1 BC and 2 BC.

 

 

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By Jesus Mysticism I assume you mean comparative mythology, which are not related all that much.

I think it hardly controversial that mythologies written down thousands of years apart are not exactly the same. Not only this, these stories belong to cultures that are thousands of miles apart in some cases; the Christ stories belonging to the Classical, Magian and Faustian cultures aren't even the same do to cultural differences derived from their places in space and time despite using the same texts.

Regardless, there are Christ-like beings from a multitude of religions not because they are copy cats or that Christianity stole these ideas or was influenced but instead because these specific types of narratives share a broader category. They are stories used to solidify a fundamental idea found in practically all cultures at some point in their development, that there is a none-material realm that influences our material one, that immaterial space having its own laws and limitations, and from time to time there's a synchronicity in the form of a being that perfectly bridges the two realms. This is your christ-like being or perhaps your antichrist-like being. 

Essentially, every culture has its transcendental ideal and a material being that perfectly actualizes that ideal. I call this Christ-like because you and I live in a Christian context and by doing so you immediately understand the type of being I speak of. 

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in the beginning you were a fucking retard and you still are oops

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Alice what you're saying kind of makes sense in a way. Especially since Christ existed long before his physical incarnation. There was a Jewish sonship movement before Christianity was ever set in stone.

 

Christ was told of long ago to Moses.

Deuteronomy 18:15-19 “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see this great fire any more, lest I die.’ And the Lord said to me, ‘They are right in what they have spoken. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him".

Deuteronomy 34:10-12 And there has not arisen a prophet since in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face. None like him for all the signs and the wonders that the Lord sent him to do in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to all his land, and for all the mighty power and all the great deeds of terror that Moses did in the sight of all Israel.

Acts 3:22-25 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’ And all the prophets who have spoken, from Samuel and those who came after him, also proclaimed these days. You are the sons of the prophets and of the covenant that God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your offspring shall all the families of the earth be blessed'.

 

Christ was told of long ago to David.

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

1 Kings 9:5 Then I will establish your royal throne over Israel forever, as I promised David your father, saying, ‘You shall not lack a man on the throne of Israel.’

Jeremiah 33:17 “For thus says the Lord: David shall never lack a man to sit on the throne of the house of Israel".

Psalm 45:6 "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness"

Hebrews 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom".

 

Alice you're right some things God reveals in the spirit. 

Matthew 16:16-18 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

 

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A prophet is someone who the creator communicates with. What was being said to Moses is that prophets will rise among us. Basically people who are able to relay messages from God.

Profits are here right now.

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A prophet is someone who the creator communicates with. What was being said to Moses is that prophets will rise among us. Basically people who are able to relay messages from God.

Profits are here right now.

 "Profits" spatial actually got something right besides btc stuff for once lel

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