"While the world is struggling to make ends meet, Kamala brings you Millionaires who go unphased by price hikes."
wow are the poor conservatives going to be in for a rude awakening. i can only laugh at them.
Why haven't you moved to Cuba, or some socialist nation ?
"While the world is struggling to make ends meet, Kamala brings you Millionaires who go unphased by price hikes."
wow are the poor conservatives going to be in for a rude awakening. i can only laugh at them.Why haven't you moved to Cuba, or some socialist nation ?
maybe one day. rn i can't.
Golden_Eagle said:Trump was voted in for policy.
The majority of Americans don't even know what policy is, as has been true for longer than I've been alive.
Is "Most of America" the metric we ought to be using to judge truth though?
The claim was "Most of America would disagree with Destiny". You'd think you're going in deeper, while I'd suggest you're scrounging around for something else you'd be more comfortable with.
All that's telling me is that he has what might be construed as controversial opinions. If it isn't about if he's correct or not then what are you even saying here, that he's unpleasant to witness?
It's funny how he angrily states Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, even though he used tariffs to bring millions of jobs back to the US in his first term.
Destiny didn't argue that he didn't plan to use them, Trump's a known delegator.
Again. Destiny angrily stated Trump doesn't know what a tariff is. You'll most likely agree with that on demand.
I think, if Trump were told to explain what it was, that he wouldn't be able to give a constructive definition.
This is a fine model for a business owner, but Destiny with this point would argue that this is less acceptable from The President of The United States.
Trump has a proven track record as 45. He created many jobs, markets reached all time highs, with a stronger economy.
Every president has a period of time where they both can wield the gains from the previous presidency and have to resolve the problems from it.
If Trump had served an eight year term I'd have an easier time agreeing with you over being able to attribute maybe... six of those years to being a direct reflection of him. With him having only served a single term however it's easy to say that the early years of his administration were riding on the coattails of Obama's former successes, and even during his term in spite of his ego protests against the guy he did help bolster a few of his programs which would then allow Obama's former successes to coast that much longer.
I don't understand how people can see how a president does as if it were solely that president who made it happen, rather than a cascade of results from the former splashing into the next one. Enacting real change is going to take more than a four year term to do, and reflecting on it being as if that short term isn't realistic.
Biden's market reached new all time highs due to inflation.
The world was reflecting inflation of a similar measure, you can't blame one man for how the entire world is doing.
The fact he thought Kamala was going to win says a lot.
I don't think it does, the political climate is so polarized now and both news stations were reporting as if it were a close race based on polling.
Obviously I don't believe in news polling even when both sides reflect similar numbers over how, every single time, those numbers never seem to end up reflecting the final result. Both news stations were making it out as if it'd be a closer race than it was, so naturally these results shocked people (from both sides actually).
The people who watched alternative non bias media knew Trump was going to win. The one with the bigger rallies, with more support, with a high rate of sale for merchandise. The one who never had to PAY celebrities to support them.
Okay, as a general statement, the fact that both sides were leaning on celebrity endorsement undermines the entire process of government merit.
I was groaning about how both resorted to that, especially when the motivation's so blatantly clear why they'd go that route instead of going off of policies that the majority of The American People have no idea about.
While the world is struggling to make ends meet, Kamala brings you Millionaires who go unphased by price hikes.
I wouldn't say unphased when The Left classically tries to pad the middle class by raising taxes on the upper crust.
Both sides have flaws in this approach:
o The Right wants to act like it's a complete meritocracy which in turn has the upper class mill down the middle one until it becomes a two class system, which following makes it harder for the lower class to see growth as possible and allows those who carry outdated views on race and sex to gatekeep. Without a model of success to follow that appears attainable a lot will simply give up on advancing themselves via Learned Helplessness.
o The Left tries to challenge wealth disparity, which stands to be opposed by their own benefactors. You can't have a campaign without funding and opposing resources that have wealth is shooting yourself in the foot by this system. While a three class system gives people something to aspire to, like a ladder to climb with realistic goalposts, that money has to come from somewhere and future growth costs current resources.
Twerking on stage with Meg the Stallion. After the performance people started leaving the rally, while Kamala spews out word salad of nothing but identity politics and killing babies.
A lot of people have been throwing this "word salad" accusation around, but I can't help but feel the majority who say that didn't actually listen to her speeches or don't actually know what "word salad" means. There's a lot of room to criticize her approach but I wouldn't say how she speaks is one of them, and I can't ignore how that began to come up only after The Left was going after the way Trump speaks (Narcissistic Filibustering, ADD Tangents, Unknowledgeable about Policy, Needlessly Filling Time, etc).
What really got Trump in there was relatability, and Kamala's California history had a lot of dissuaded people on the left.
People went to Harris rallies to see the celebrities. Not most people though. Most people don't care about that shit.
Rallies only appeal to a side that feels silenced, and typically show better numbers over the opposing party of the current running president. This was a left wing presidency, so naturally right wing rallies had a stronger sense of community.
If you look over other election times for rallies you'll see the fervor flip between the two over this pattern.
We've seen Celebrities take damage for supporting Harris, but none of that happened to celebrities who supported Trump. ( Trump never had to pay celebs )
You can't really ruin Hulk Hogan's reputation with a cheesy endorsement and a shirt rip. 😏
And Kid Rock? Really? The two were chasing relevance.
Trump survived a close call, pumped his fist and made history in digital hi-def that will be remembered for hundreds of years. Money can't buy that.
Actually it can, and the lack of permanent damage to his ear continues to leave me with conspiracy questions.
Not just the US but the whole world likes Trump, and many around the world know the MSM is lying to you. They told you Biden was strong as an ox. Mentally fix, very sharp and stable. Meanwhile he was told by his own party to step aside, like he isn't even in charge.
Okay I'm sorry but The Whole World Likes Trump is an absurd statement that I don't think even many of your own party would try to float as reality.
I also feel like you think The Left is what The Right's echo chamber told you. There's less brainwashing going on so much as conditioned silence from those who didn't want to appear offensive by their own base. Find me a Leftist, IRL rather than on the News, who thought Biden was strong as an ox rather than sitting there disillusioned over what they just saw. Even the ones in denial, the ones making excuses for him, were moreso minimizing the perception of the issue rather than acting like it was the opposite.
Golden_Eagle said:Trump was voted in for policy.
The majority of Americans don't even know what policy is, as has been true for longer than I've been alive.
Not this time. Though, the Dem voter clearly doesn't know policy. All it took was for the Dems to wave a single carrot in front of your faces and it was game over. They also say they'll raise your taxes, everytime, but no one seems to hear that.
Trump raised awareness to policy. It's why you always see people swing left to right. People started looking into Trump for themselves as many noticed something is wrong with mainstream reporting.
People think Project 2025 is a major threat and will be implemented, think it will be implemented and it aims to do things like ban porn. Not because you've read it for yourself, but because you believe your trusted news sources. You yourself complain about it, yet you don't outline anything about you're afraid of.
Is "Most of America" the metric we ought to be using to judge truth though?
The claim was "Most of America would disagree with Destiny". You'd think you're going in deeper, while I'd suggest you're scrounging around for something else you'd be more comfortable with.
All that's telling me is that he has what might be construed as controversial opinions. If it isn't about if he's correct or not then what are you even saying here, that he's unpleasant to witness?
To be honest, it isn't unpleasant to see Destiny yap away while in defeat. He's spewing falsehood though, and he's doing it with passion. If you know you know.
Destiny didn't argue that he didn't plan to use them, Trump's a known delegator.
Again. Destiny angrily stated Trump doesn't know what a tariff is. You'll most likely agree with that on demand.
I think, if Trump were told to explain what it was, that he wouldn't be able to give a constructive definition.
That's very unwise. Things like that happen to people when they've been lead astray.
This is a fine model for a business owner, but Destiny with this point would argue that this is less acceptable from The President of The United States.
Trump has a proven track record as 45. He created many jobs, markets reached all time highs, with a stronger economy.
Every president has a period of time where they both can wield the gains from the previous presidency and have to resolve the problems from it.
If Trump had served an eight year term I'd have an easier time agreeing with you over being able to attribute maybe... six of those years to being a direct reflection of him. With him having only served a single term however it's easy to say that the early years of his administration were riding on the coattails of Obama's former successes, and even during his term in spite of his ego protests against the guy he did help bolster a few of his programs which would then allow Obama's former successes to coast that much longer.
I don't understand how people can see how a president does as if it were solely that president who made it happen, rather than a cascade of results from the former splashing into the next one. Enacting real change is going to take more than a four year term to do, and reflecting on it being as if that short term isn't realistic.
What has Obama done for ya ?
Obama suggesting Jobs will never come back. ( Should be time stamped around 3 minutes )
Biden's market reached new all time highs due to inflation.
The world was reflecting inflation of a similar measure, you can't blame one man for how the entire world is doing.
Oh I'm not placing blame, I'm just pointing out the reason for his market skyrocketing. The guy himself is a weak leader with piss poor policies. Tax payers ended up paying off student loans for 5 million students, which is good for the students, congratulations to them, but the US is in debt, they are funding an endless war, sheltering illegals that don't contribute ( like some Americans tbh ). The world sees the US as stupid.
The fact he thought Kamala was going to win says a lot.I don't think it does, the political climate is so polarized now and both news stations were reporting as if it were a close race based on polling.
Obviously I don't believe in news polling even when both sides reflect similar numbers over how, every single time, those numbers never seem to end up reflecting the final result. Both news stations were making it out as if it'd be a closer race than it was, so naturally these results shocked people (from both sides actually).
News reported it was going to be a close race. They were wrong yet again.
The people who watched alternative non bias media knew Trump was going to win. The one with the bigger rallies, with more support, with a high rate of sale for merchandise. The one who never had to PAY celebrities to support them.
Okay, as a general statement, the fact that both sides were leaning on celebrity endorsement undermines the entire process of government merit.
There was a difference. Harris was paying the Diddy list for support, while Trump's celebrities donated their time and money for the sake of what they really believe in.
I was groaning about how both resorted to that, especially when the motivation's so blatantly clear why they'd go that route instead of going off of policies that the majority of The American People have no idea about.
I'm proud of Elon tbh. He bought Twitter, unbanned all of the shadowbanned right wingers. Unbanned Trump. Exposed how the FBI would tell Twitter who to silence. The very minute Trump survived his first assassination attempt he went MAGA for the first time. Trump himself used to be a Democrat, same with all of those around him.
Elon is now going to work in Trump's administration effectively shrinking the government and making it run more efficiently.
Trump never had that many celebrities, but the ones he did have were patriots, and cared about the wellbeing of others. As a reminder this is the Trump Prophecy Recap thread, and Elon, is playing out in Mark Taylors Trump prophecy, God's plan to remove evil from power and restore the fortunes in the US sevenfold.
While the world is struggling to make ends meet, Kamala brings you Millionaires who go unphased by price hikes.
I wouldn't say unphased when The Left classically tries to pad the middle class by raising taxes on the upper crust.
Obama did it, Hillary wanted to do it, Biden did it for the record. Also taxing the rich incentivises corporation to raise prices, and that was done too after a pandemic at that. Not smart.
Both sides have flaws in this approach:
o The Right wants to act like it's a complete meritocracy which in turn has the upper class mill down the middle one until it becomes a two class system, which following makes it harder for the lower class to see growth as possible and allows those who carry outdated views on race and sex to gatekeep. Without a model of success to follow that appears attainable a lot will simply give up on advancing themselves via Learned Helplessness.
lol Outdated views on sex. Dude, no one gives a shit about identity politics, though personally I wouldn't hire a transexual because I find them to be temperamental and highly conflicted victims of their own made up issue. People like that will try to form a union and shit. If they are gay that doesn't really matter to me. Indians, I'd be wary off. I wouldn't hire a fob Indian.
Get a haircut, get a job, study, have goals. So many successful people swung close to the rocks before building their castles and filling it with treasure. Also rich people don't give a shit about race.
o The Left tries to challenge wealth disparity, which stands to be opposed by their own benefactors. You can't have a campaign without funding and opposing resources that have wealth is shooting yourself in the foot by this system. While a three class system gives people something to aspire to, like a ladder to climb with realistic goalposts, that money has to come from somewhere and future growth costs current resources.
The left never votes for prosperity to begin with. You said it yourself when you said most Americans don't know policy, but we see that on the left. You only have 1 policy from Harris and the rest you don't even know, except maybe no tax on tips which she copied from Trump.
You voted for Hillary, because she was a woman. Obama for he's black, Biden to get Trump out, Harris to kill Babies. And maybe, so people in prison can get free sex changes.
This round your concerns never outweighed what was more important. It never did, but this time more people realize what's best because they are struggling. You'll still be cursing Trump when you have more Proggies in your freezer.
Twerking on stage with Meg the Stallion. After the performance people started leaving the rally, while Kamala spews out word salad of nothing but identity politics and killing babies.
A lot of people have been throwing this "word salad" accusation around, but I can't help but feel the majority who say that didn't actually listen to her speeches or don't actually know what "word salad" means.
That's what you feel, but you don't even have any good quotes or anything noteworthy or memorable of what she said.
The term word salad is suitable because she can't answer direct questions properly. Even SNL made fun of her for that.
Even CNN can't defend her.
Right now CNN and other big networks are doing their darndest to reformat, their loosing viewership like never before.
There's a lot of room to criticize her approach but I wouldn't say how she speaks is one of them, and I can't ignore how that began to come up only after The Left was going after the way Trump speaks (Narcissistic Filibustering, ADD Tangents, Unknowledgeable about Policy, Needlessly Filling Time, etc).
That's your opinion. Meanwhile Biden and Harris both plagiarized Trump policies.
What really got Trump in there was relatability, and Kamala's California history had a lot of dissuaded people on the left.
To be honest, I think the Democratic party is now dead. They will not be coming back into power probably for many decades, if ever again. There's a potential Trump dynasty, Tulsi Gabbard will make an excellent first lady President, plus she's everything the left wanted. Female, and a person of colour. She happens to be a veteran with an outstanding career. She also dismantled Harris when she was on the debate stage when she was a Democrat. Ramaswamy is popular, RFK can potentially run in 4 years, when he's 74. The Dems have no one who can beat these people.
People went to Harris rallies to see the celebrities. Not most people though. Most people don't care about that shit.
Rallies only appeal to a side that feels silenced, and typically show better numbers over the opposing party of the current running president. This was a left wing presidency, so naturally right wing rallies had a stronger sense of community.
If you look over other election times for rallies you'll see the fervor flip between the two over this pattern.
This election is about Revolution, and Trump is a Revolutionary President.
We've seen Celebrities take damage for supporting Harris, but none of that happened to celebrities who supported Trump. ( Trump never had to pay celebs )
You can't really ruin Hulk Hogan's reputation with a cheesy endorsement and a shirt rip. 😏
And Kid Rock? Really? The two were chasing relevance.
Okay, but neither of them took damage for supporting Trump. There's a difference. Neither did Elon.
I think Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan are a patriotic. The type of people who'll wave around an American flag, On the left hanging the American flag has become Haram.
Trump survived a close call, pumped his fist and made history in digital hi-def that will be remembered for hundreds of years. Money can't buy that.
Actually it can, and the lack of permanent damage to his ear continues to leave me with conspiracy questions.
If you look it up, ears are said to heal very quickly. In most cases in a matter of days. It's not like he had his ear blown off, it got nicked, similar to when YOU shave your manly beard and you knick yourself. Also 2 other people got shot and one of them died.
Man pumped his fist under an American flag, and it worked in his favor.
Money can't buy that.
As the prophecy unfolds, and it is, God doesn't do fake.
Not just the US but the whole world likes Trump, and many around the world know the MSM is lying to you. They told you Biden was strong as an ox. Mentally fix, very sharp and stable. Meanwhile he was told by his own party to step aside, like he isn't even in charge.
Okay I'm sorry but The Whole World Likes Trump is an absurd statement that I don't think even many of your own party would try to float as reality.
In General the world does. Everyone has their haters.
People who hate Trump are under a spell. They hate him because they believe he's what they were told. A nazi, and a racist. They see how the news and late shows attack him and like children they don't want to be on the receiving end. I know people who hate Trump for all of those reasons, they cannot easily be shown the truth.
I also feel like you think The Left is what The Right's echo chamber told you. There's less brainwashing going on so much as conditioned silence from those who didn't want to appear offensive by their own base.
You believe Project 2025 to be what you were told it is. The Heritage Foundation is simply a think tank of conservatives, and much of what you've been told about their ideas, is false. They have no connection to Trump. And if one of them did, it doesn't mean Trump is their puppet.
Even Project 2025 debunks the claims against them, but you can't hear it from the actual source, you need the daily news to tell you what is, and what isn't.
The right is usually at the head of it's own eco chamber. Election night 2020, both LiYang and myself watched and called Bullshit, we pulled up graphs, watched them block officials from observing the counting, stuffed ballots, backordered ballots, whistle blowers, mathematical impossibilities like Trump not getting a single vote for 3 hours while Biden gets 300,000+ causing a parabolic spike. These are things we see in market manipulation with stocks and crypto, but to see it in an election is insane. Those who join the right wing eco chamber is fed information with evidence, and not hearsay.
The right is filled with people who implement critical thinking skill. It's swell that you want abortion, but that was left to the states, and some say no. Democracy isn't perfect for either side in this case, but you want more.
Also... Biden and Harris are still in power now, and they won't be giving you what you want. They need some campaign promises to make for next time.
Find me a Leftist, IRL rather than on the News, who thought Biden was strong as an ox rather than sitting there disillusioned over what they just saw. Even the ones in denial, the ones making excuses for him, were moreso minimizing the perception of the issue rather than acting like it was the opposite.
As I stated the MSM lies to you, and that was an example. You should take the opportunity to let that sink in.
No one things Biden was any good, which is why the puppetmaster pulled the plug on him running for a 2nd term, and gave you someone NO ONE elected.
It's your own retarded assumption that everything a person thinks is based on the media they consume. Conservative media is still MSM. MSM at most is liberal not very leftist at all.
I doubt even a liberal like Turncoat cares what the MSM says. It's more likely you are the only one paying attention to the MSM so you can accuse people.
You literally make the most dogmatic conspiracy talking points from Conservative media that is not any less mainstream than Liberal media.
It's your own retarded assumption that everything a person thinks is based on the media they consume. Conservative media is still MSM. MSM at most is liberal not very leftist at all.
Not an assumption.
Trump was popular among the left.
Big time celebrity, loved by Hollywood, loved even by The View. When he announced running in 2015, then came the sudden media and there were masses of people who hated on him unlike anything we've seen. They hated Trump, cause of the MSM. You're too young and inexperienced to remember any of that.
I doubt even a liberal like Turncoat cares what the MSM says. It's more likely you are the only one paying attention to the MSM so you can accuse people.
Many of his talking points are from the MSM. Project 2025 conspiracy theory for example.
You literally make the most dogmatic conspiracy talking points from Conservative me....
In my culture, we punish whiny children. We then grow up to find whining utterly disgusting.
Conservatism in the west, will stick for a very long time. In the US the DNC is destroyed. I have no reason to wrestle with you.
Consider Golden_Eagle's framework for a moment based on past chats:
Only one truth exists, that truth is widely understood between the majority of people, and those who don't believe it are either delusional or brainwashed by poisonous media over being 'stupid' enough to trust it.
The issue in this line of thinking is the question of where that confidence comes from for his own POV; How could he possibly know if he is or isn't among the brainwashed masses? Had he been raised to see things as the supposedly brainwashed people do he'd be saying it's the opposite side that was conditioned to think unnaturally.
I doubt even a liberal like Turncoat cares what the MSM says. It's more likely you are the only one paying attention to the MSM so you can accuse people.
Many of his talking points are from the MSM. Project 2025 conspiracy theory for example.
They aren't, in fact a lot of your replies don't even address what I've said.
It's a lot of what's delayed my responding as of this point of the debate.
