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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 

Before getting into this, I decided awhile back it was necessary to flesh out the natural process of short term temptations. This thread is a collage of those notes, some which are thought strings. The structure may seem sporadic.  

So how do you feel about this ideology these days? 

Despite not being in desperate circumstances, I find it more necessary than ever. I'm only here because I gave these ideals priority and my main focus has been to maintain its priority.

Oh, I was hoping this was some form of past tense journaling where you'd be commenting on how far you've come from getting over such snags in thinking. 

So there's room to debate with this ideology as a present tense mindset instead of just referencing an older you? How far would you say you deviate from the OP? 

 I don't deviate at all, these notes were made recently

They sound... like some of your older stuff. I'd argue this is regressional, usually as a compensation cope for when you're hurting. You use this rhetoric to externalize things about yourself that you don't like, and tend to look towards others who are otherwise similar to the quality, but more extreme in display, to rebuke. While it appears as a staircase for yourself for "self improvement" on the surface, I mostly see you beat yourself up and bury yourself in memes while cussing people out for accepting something about themselves that you dislike about yourself. While it looks motivated and inspirational, it tends to come out with repression and denials. 

I'll think of some questions for the lettered bits when I have more focus, as this seems worth talking about to me. 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
last edit on 11/13/2019 8:45:56 PM
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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 

Before getting into this, I decided awhile back it was necessary to flesh out the natural process of short term temptations. This thread is a collage of those notes, some which are thought strings. The structure may seem sporadic.  

So how do you feel about this ideology these days? 

Despite not being in desperate circumstances, I find it more necessary than ever. I'm only here because I gave these ideals priority and my main focus has been to maintain its priority.

Oh, I was hoping this was some form of past tense journaling where you'd be commenting on how far you've come from getting over such snags in thinking. 

So there's room to debate with this ideology as a present tense mindset instead of just referencing an older you? How far would you say you deviate from the OP? 

 I don't deviate at all, these notes were made recently

They sound... like some of your older stuff. I'd argue this is regressional, usually as a compensation cope for when you're hurting. You use this rhetoric to externalize things about yourself that you don't like, and tend to look towards others who are otherwise similar to the quality, but more extreme in display, to rebuke. While it appears as a staircase for yourself for "self improvement" on the surface, I mostly see you beat yourself up and bury yourself in memes while cussing people out for accepting something about themselves that you dislike about yourself. While it looks motivated and inspirational, it tends to come out with repression and denials. 

I'll think of some questions for the lettered bits when I have more focus, as this seems worth talking about to me. 

 I don't care much for your reads or your analysis on my character based on dated conversations, the bulk of which took place 3 years ago. If you're going to address my points, do so directly with the current material provided.

I am with you, even unto the end of the age
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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 

Before getting into this, I decided awhile back it was necessary to flesh out the natural process of short term temptations. This thread is a collage of those notes, some which are thought strings. The structure may seem sporadic.  

So how do you feel about this ideology these days? 

Despite not being in desperate circumstances, I find it more necessary than ever. I'm only here because I gave these ideals priority and my main focus has been to maintain its priority.

Oh, I was hoping this was some form of past tense journaling where you'd be commenting on how far you've come from getting over such snags in thinking. 

So there's room to debate with this ideology as a present tense mindset instead of just referencing an older you? How far would you say you deviate from the OP? 

 I don't deviate at all, these notes were made recently

They sound... like some of your older stuff. I'd argue this is regressional, usually as a compensation cope for when you're hurting. You use this rhetoric to externalize things about yourself that you don't like, and tend to look towards others who are otherwise similar to the quality, but more extreme in display, to rebuke. While it appears as a staircase for yourself for "self improvement" on the surface, I mostly see you beat yourself up and bury yourself in memes while cussing people out for accepting something about themselves that you dislike about yourself. While it looks motivated and inspirational, it tends to come out with repression and denials. 

I'll think of some questions for the lettered bits when I have more focus, as this seems worth talking about to me. 

I don't care much for your reads or your analysis on my character based on dated conversations, the bulk of which took place 3 years ago. If you're going to address my points, do so directly with the current material provided.

I'm not allowed to use who you used to be in relation to the points you're making..? You do that shit all the time though, why is this case different? 

How much do you really think you've changed in a few years? Beyond slowing down, a lot of you is the same guy. 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
last edit on 11/14/2019 4:38:24 PM
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I'm not allowed to use who you used to be in relation to the points you're making..? You do that shit all the time though, why is this case different? 

I don't.

This is another assumption on your end. Find an example if you can and let's see how far back this one goes


How much do you really think you've changed in a few years? Beyond slowing down, a lot of you is the same guy. 

 You're not in a position to make that sort of judgement chief. This is your initial problem made twice over.

Instead of expressing your differing viewpoint on the source material, you'd rather make assumptions that I'm emotionally hurt and now a hypocrite with years old opinions you took on my person. It comes off as very up your own ass to blow off someones argument by saying you know the intricacies of their subconscious, especially when your supporting reasons are years old.

I am with you, even unto the end of the age
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Let's talk Christian Hedonism!

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Kestrel said: 

I'm not allowed to use who you used to be in relation to the points you're making..? You do that shit all the time though, why is this case different? 

I don't.

This is another assumption on your end. Find an example if you can and let's see how far back this one goes

...you really think you don't compare yourself to your past? Also why dig when you've already stated plainly that you're attempting to disregard your own past behaviors? 

A more realistic question that shouldn't take either of us any digging: When do you figure that you stopped comparing yourself to past versions of you, and how much would you say you've changed since we spoke more? 

From what I've seen of you here and on Discord, it seems more like your classic teeter totter of two aspects of yourself like I'd been seeing from you for a while now (you're fairly consistent). Like Jim, you tend to demonize the part of yourself that you don't want to identify with, and hit others who express it harder than you would yourself. 

How much do you really think you've changed in a few years? Beyond slowing down, a lot of you is the same guy. 

 You're not in a position to make that sort of judgement chief. This is your initial problem made twice over.

Why am I in no position to judge that? 

Instead of expressing your differing viewpoint on the source material, you'd rather make assumptions that I'm emotionally hurt and now a hypocrite with years old opinions you took on my person. It comes off as very up your own ass to blow off someones argument by saying you know the intricacies of their subconscious, especially when your supporting reasons are years old.

Why not just answer the question of how you changed? 

Your tone sounds somewhat aggressive here, and I'm not even trying to fight. This is supposed to be a discussion, and I'm saying how I've seen and continue to see things. You're free to rebuke it but it's not like I'm your enemy for doing so, is it? 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
last edit on 11/15/2019 5:40:43 PM
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Sounds like #feels. 

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Let's talk Christian Hedonism!

Sounds sinful. 

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0 votes RE: Notes on Hedonism & Gen...

Let's talk Christian Hedonism!

Sounds sinful. 

 Don't worry it's not as long as it's done the right way!

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Let's talk Christian Hedonism!

Sounds sinful. 

 Don't worry it's not as long as it's done the right way!

In what way should it be done?

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