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Cain said: 
Cain said: 

Serious question: What does it matter if a kid discovers porn? Does it actually have some sort of negative effect?

 If it has negative effects on adults, it's probably worse for kids.

Like what? 

 A little google search will bring up various studies. I dont wish to detail what you can find alone.

It's numerous with dubious levels of research behind them, so I figured I'd ask which you meant which, likely, would have been followed by me asking for sources. 

Anyone can claim anything, but all you basically said was that, because it's "bad" for adults, it must be "worse" for kids, without a basis to go on. 

Chemical changes, Grey matter changes, etc exist.

This is a pretty big etc. 

As well as perception changes, arguably not for the "better". Including sexual function with a real partner, to the shaping of one's taste- whether to be more perverse or unrealistic.

How many porn watchers do you think this portion qualifies for? 

What do you mean here when you say "function", the stuff you usually read about for the specific group of people who identify as "Porn Addicts"? In such a case it's less about how much of a problem the porn is so much as what they end up using the porn for, as this is really about how they've affected their reward system. Anything in excess is bad, and porn is no exception, so what of "responsible porn use in moderation"? 

I could argue similarly for "How it is bad for humanity that we no longer hunt for our own food", and the formation of ideas was perverse long before the internet. At worst you can argue that having access to other people who share your perversions can make it easier to not drop that desire from otherwise having an outlet for it, which has effectively done no more than bringing an existing perversion present within them to the surface as a more acceptable concept instead of a buried secret. 

In many respects I'd argue that porn is better for the public sphere than it is damaging. 

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why does tc always seem to be trying to downplay the dangers of exposing children to sexually explicit images when it's common knowledge the damages it can have? he also has a history of supposedly playing devils advocate, repeatedly trying to proclaim that he doesn't understand what's wrong with child porn('why is child porn bad?') or insisting that the cp shouldn't be deleted because it encourages the ones posting it. very suspect.

i was initially joking when i said his mom was probably the woman that raped him but now i think its true. it all makes sense. how a grown man claims to have been unable to defend himself from a woman breaking into his dorm room repeatedly to rape him...unless he was a child at the time.

it would seem that he internalized the abuse and convinced himself it wasn't really abuse, and now his irrational logic on such matters spill out here because he can't accept what happened to him.

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why does tc always seem to be trying to downplay the dangers of exposing children to sexually explicit images when it's common knowledge the damages it can have?

"Common knowledge" exactly. 

he also has a history of supposedly playing devils advocate, repeatedly trying to proclaim that he doesn't understand what's wrong with child porn('why is child porn bad?') or insisting that the cp shouldn't be deleted because it encourages the ones posting it. very suspect.

True. 🤔

i was initially joking when i said his mom was probably the woman that raped him but now i think its true. it all makes sense. how a grown man claims to have been unable to defend himself from a woman breaking into his dorm room repeatedly to rape him...unless he was a child at the time.

it would seem that he internalized the abuse and convinced himself it wasn't really abuse, and now his irrational logic on such matters spill out here because he can't accept what happened to him.

 As far as irrational logic. He seems to default to a near predictable outcome.

+ He dissmisses and ignores provided discussion if the idea is counter to his belief or may cause a negative feeling. "Dubious research" 

* notice I didn't provide any research, rather encouraged to look it up himself in case he was living under some rock ; but it was dismissed automatically as "dubious" 

Later he makes the brilliant point.

"Anyone can claim anything"

-duh. This is obvious. But right after he goes on about not understanding that if something is bad for an adult how could it somehow be worse to a more sensitive and not fully developed child. He picks and chooses when to acknowledge common sense, only ever when it is in favor of "being the devil's advocate".

Its not terribly impressive for a *sharp mind* to just forget the basic cuts "convenientally". 

 

I'd also suspect some form of denial about his past. Lack of honesty with self.

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Cain said: 

i was initially joking when i said his mom was probably the woman that raped him but now i think its true. it all makes sense. how a grown man claims to have been unable to defend himself from a woman breaking into his dorm room repeatedly to rape him...unless he was a child at the time.

it would seem that he internalized the abuse and convinced himself it wasn't really abuse, and now his irrational logic on such matters spill out here because he can't accept what happened to him.

 As far as irrational logic. He seems to default to a near predictable outcome.

+ He dissmisses and ignores provided discussion if the idea is counter to his belief or may cause a negative feeling. "Dubious research" 

You didn't even present sources or elaborate on any of your points though, and typically in an argument if someone leaves their sources out? 

It's usually dubious, especially when it's aiming to make a moralist point.

While I can argue how certain forms of porn might not be healthy for people, and while I can argue that it ought to be used within moderation, I can also argue for it's benefits both towards the self and society as a whole. What you're referring to as "common knowledge" in this case is more like "Traditionalist Boomerisms" when you don't elaborate further into it. 

* notice I didn't provide any research, rather encouraged to look it up himself in case he was living under some rock ; but it was dismissed automatically as "dubious" 

I would likely not find your sources, and if I find sources I don't agree with that somewhat fit your model, what, am I supposed to just strawman them onto you? 

There's research for why porn is bad for people that ranges from surprisingly damning to flimsy and moralist, and if you aren't presenting the damning stuff while keeping it vague, then I can only assume you lack it until I see otherwise. 

Effectively, to have others look up your sources for you is asking them to either strawman you or argue for you, both which makes no sense here. You're just wanting to state your opinion in an unarguable way. 

"Anyone can claim anything"

-duh. This is obvious. But right after he goes on about not understanding that if something is bad for an adult how could it somehow be worse to a more sensitive and not fully developed child.

All I said is that you left it vague. How can it be discussed if it's just "bad" instead of discussing how it's bad? 

He picks and chooses when to acknowledge common sense, only ever when it is in favor of "being the devil's advocate". 

Uncommon sense is sometimes the right answer, and there's enough of a "common" consensus that can argue in favor of porn. 

This isn't a common sense argument like how to turn a doorknob or put on pants, this is about if a thing that's wormed it's way into a surprising number of people's lives is unhealthy or not, and to what degrees. 
 

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last edit on 10/21/2019 12:40:19 AM
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Cain said: 

i was initially joking when i said his mom was probably the woman that raped him but now i think its true. it all makes sense. how a grown man claims to have been unable to defend himself from a woman breaking into his dorm room repeatedly to rape him...unless he was a child at the time.

it would seem that he internalized the abuse and convinced himself it wasn't really abuse, and now his irrational logic on such matters spill out here because he can't accept what happened to him.

 As far as irrational logic. He seems to default to a near predictable outcome.

+ He dissmisses and ignores provided discussion if the idea is counter to his belief or may cause a negative feeling. "Dubious research" 

You didn't even present sources or elaborate on any of your points though, and typically in an argument if someone leaves their sources out? 

 

 



It's usually dubious, especially when it's aiming to make a moralist point.

So my hunch is correct that conflicting morality ideas can be dismissed as dubious. Henceforth why I didn't bother providing any information- and will not. Because I don't need to put effort into something you can roll eyes and ignore so you can continue believing whatever it is you believe. 

As previously stated- your responses are predictable and can be sarcastically automated by the self if I care to think like "Looney Tunes"

There's research for why porn is bad for people that ranges from surprisingly damning to flimsy and moralist, and if you aren't presenting the damning stuff while keeping it vague, then I can only assume you lack it until I see otherwise. 

 

The "damming stuff". Why play ignorant of what you apparently know?

You point a finger and say "you have not shown your full hand!" ; but neither have you.



Effectively, to have others look up your sources for you is asking them to either strawman you or argue for you, both which makes no sense here. You're just wanting to state your opinion in an unarguable way. 

I don't have interest to argue what I believe is common sense. In my perspective I'm not gaining anything but frustration to break down the obvious basics before real discussion could begin. The suggestion to merely google is to give a background on the same source for information that amounts to "common sense"

Its also common sense that very rare is it when scientists all agree on a particular claim. If this is because there is opposing data, or *cringe* feelings, is not even a case of "either or" it can be both. 

"Anyone can claim anything"

-duh. This is obvious. But right after he goes on about not understanding that if something is bad for an adult how could it somehow be worse to a more sensitive and not fully developed child.

All I said is that you left it vague. How can it be discussed if it's just "bad" instead of discussing how it's bad? 

If something is explained *how* it's bad, the notion of it being bad is automatically assumed, as it is logical. This above comment adds nothing, and nor does mine.

He picks and chooses when to acknowledge common sense, only ever when it is in favor of "being the devil's advocate". 

Uncommon sense is sometimes the right answer, and there's enough of a "common" consensus that can argue in favor of porn. 

This isn't a common sense argument like how to turn a doorknob or put on pants, this is about if a thing that's wormed it's way into a surprising number of people's lives is unhealthy or not, and to what degrees. 

 Again. It being unhealthy is a given.(therefore common sense) The degree is in fact debatable; the degree of negative effects are presumed greater for the softer more impressionable mind, (for self) unless the uncommon sense theory's rationalization has been provided so it doesn't come across as baseless trolling.

Offer substance to counter points; rather than giving an unexplained idea, that deserves laughing at. It is just debate on purely sensational suggestion- when opposing ideas are given without proper context.

 

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...are you really trying to high road not presenting sources? 

Why should I even entertain your end of the debate if all you can say about your own is "look it up"? 

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Cain said: 

why does tc always seem to be trying to downplay the dangers of exposing children to sexually explicit images when it's common knowledge the damages it can have?

"Common knowledge" exactly. 

he also has a history of supposedly playing devils advocate, repeatedly trying to proclaim that he doesn't understand what's wrong with child porn('why is child porn bad?') or insisting that the cp shouldn't be deleted because it encourages the ones posting it. very suspect.

True. 🤔

i was initially joking when i said his mom was probably the woman that raped him but now i think its true. it all makes sense. how a grown man claims to have been unable to defend himself from a woman breaking into his dorm room repeatedly to rape him...unless he was a child at the time.

it would seem that he internalized the abuse and convinced himself it wasn't really abuse, and now his irrational logic on such matters spill out here because he can't accept what happened to him.

 As far as irrational logic. He seems to default to a near predictable outcome.

+ He dissmisses and ignores provided discussion if the idea is counter to his belief or may cause a negative feeling. "Dubious research" 

* notice I didn't provide any research, rather encouraged to look it up himself in case he was living under some rock ; but it was dismissed automatically as "dubious" 

Later he makes the brilliant point.

"Anyone can claim anything"

-duh. This is obvious. But right after he goes on about not understanding that if something is bad for an adult how could it somehow be worse to a more sensitive and not fully developed child. He picks and chooses when to acknowledge common sense, only ever when it is in favor of "being the devil's advocate".

Its not terribly impressive for a *sharp mind* to just forget the basic cuts "convenientally". 

 

I'd also suspect some form of denial about his past. Lack of honesty with self.

 i used to think this was just pretentious oppositional posturing or trying to seem edgy but now i think he has a real issue understanding why it might be unhealthy to expose kids to sexually explicit content. not only that, but he has a need to make others feel the same way as him at all costs, like it's connected to his ego.

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Her show  is good. Looking forward to watching the one on "Benzos"  later tonight.

Y'all gonna watch with me ??

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why does tc always seem to be trying to downplay the dangers of exposing children to sexually explicit images when it's common knowledge the damages it can have? he also has a history of supposedly playing devils advocate, repeatedly trying to proclaim that he doesn't understand what's wrong with child porn('why is child porn bad?') or insisting that the cp shouldn't be deleted because it encourages the ones posting it. very suspect.

i was initially joking when i said his mom was probably the woman that raped him but now i think its true. it all makes sense. how a grown man claims to have been unable to defend himself from a woman breaking into his dorm room repeatedly to rape him...unless he was a child at the time.

it would seem that he internalized the abuse and convinced himself it wasn't really abuse, and now his irrational logic on such matters spill out here because he can't accept what happened to him.

 kids that dont stop adults from raping em are secretly asking for it tbh. the little faggots

2:48Spatial Mind The guy was sticking his dick in an infants mouth, it was so fucking disturbing
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