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Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

Now you are saying I'm dumb and then adding something with effort relevant to the topic to validate your own assertion MEAN 

And I see you're crying about it instead of acting aloof like justin bieber. Just be a fucking stupid log and go do monkey stuff again virgin, that's all you're good for.

 Haha I just deconstructed your strategy and exposed you loser and now you're angry about it get rekt

The only thing you deconstructed is your mom's ass on doctor's request, virgin.

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

Now you are saying I'm dumb and then adding something with effort relevant to the topic to validate your own assertion MEAN 

And I see you're crying about it instead of acting aloof like justin bieber. Just be a fucking stupid log and go do monkey stuff again virgin, that's all you're good for.

 Haha I just deconstructed your strategy and exposed you loser and now you're angry about it get rekt

The only thing you deconstructed is your mom's ass on doctor's request.

 No I also deconstructed your low tier troll tactic 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

Now you are saying I'm dumb and then adding something with effort relevant to the topic to validate your own assertion MEAN 

And I see you're crying about it instead of acting aloof like justin bieber. Just be a fucking stupid log and go do monkey stuff again virgin, that's all you're good for.

 Haha I just deconstructed your strategy and exposed you loser and now you're angry about it get rekt

The only thing you deconstructed is your mom's ass on doctor's request.

 No I also deconstructed your low tier troll tactic 

If your mom's ass is a low tier troll tactic then you did, virgin.

John Smith said: 

Turncoat said: 

How much do you figure seeing one's own future would change it into a future that seeing it doesn't change? I'd figure that it'd kinda balance out while your perception of time itself changes into something completely alien. 

How much does ignorance of the future play into itself? 

Will you not run into some kind of a catch-22 issue here?

I imagine such a power being present in someone effectively processing countless unseen trials, like that of a program, filing it down done until it falls into the deterministic framework it'd need to exist in the first place, a situation where seeing into the future changes nothing. It kind of ends up working out like Groundhog Day, but without all that expended effort from physically witnessing the time loops. 

To have it be otherwise would have your future sight be inconsistent, changing every single time you use that power. Your seeing the future in such a case would seem no different than daydreaming, albeit with a few surprisingly accurate clues, since seeing said future would influence all of your decisions to the point of massive butterfly effect tangents. 

If seeing you ate pizza for breakfast one morning makes you eat Cheerio's instead, you could have a very different day ahead of you. 

They've that Russian theory (Novikov self-consistency principle) that goes into solving the grandfather paradox with a similar idea.

I've never read that one. 

I'd mostly been going with The Grandfather Paradox being resolved with "You clearly failed to accomplish your goal", whether because of multiple instances of the self fighting itself to make it stable (if not "Time Cops" or something silly like that that otherwise intervenes with the path)... or simply because the goal itself wasn't doable through other seemingly disconnected factors. It doesn't answer the hypothetical that's posed of "Okay, but what if I did succeed, what then?", it just throws a small degree of unfalsifiability onto Determinism. 

It's similar to the "Could God make an object even He couldn't lift?" kinds of questions, where the answer in a simpler form can be "Yes, for the moment" in that it doesn't technically answer the question in a truly conclusive way. 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

Now you are saying I'm dumb and then adding something with effort relevant to the topic to validate your own assertion MEAN 

And I see you're crying about it instead of acting aloof like justin bieber. Just be a fucking stupid log and go do monkey stuff again virgin, that's all you're good for.

 Haha I just deconstructed your strategy and exposed you loser and now you're angry about it get rekt

The only thing you deconstructed is your mom's ass on doctor's request.

 No I also deconstructed your low tier troll tactic 

If your mom's ass is a low tier troll tactic then you did.

 My mom's ass is not a low tier troll tactic your tactic however is loser

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

Now you are saying I'm dumb and then adding something with effort relevant to the topic to validate your own assertion MEAN 

And I see you're crying about it instead of acting aloof like justin bieber. Just be a fucking stupid log and go do monkey stuff again virgin, that's all you're good for.

 Haha I just deconstructed your strategy and exposed you loser and now you're angry about it get rekt

The only thing you deconstructed is your mom's ass on doctor's request.

 No I also deconstructed your low tier troll tactic 

If your mom's ass is a low tier troll tactic then you did.

 My mom's ass is not a low tier troll tactic your tactic however is loser

KEK that's what your mom said to you when you asked if you could play with her to develop your flirting tactics, virgin.

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

John Smith said: 

Xadem said: 

Now you are saying I'm dumb and then adding something with effort relevant to the topic to validate your own assertion MEAN 

And I see you're crying about it instead of acting aloof like justin bieber. Just be a fucking stupid log and go do monkey stuff again virgin, that's all you're good for.

 Haha I just deconstructed your strategy and exposed you loser and now you're angry about it get rekt

The only thing you deconstructed is your mom's ass on doctor's request.

 No I also deconstructed your low tier troll tactic 

If your mom's ass is a low tier troll tactic then you did.

 My mom's ass is not a low tier troll tactic your tactic however is loser

KEK that's what your mom said to you when you asked if you could play with her to develop your flirting tactics, virgin.

 I never asked her that, not with those words

Turncoat said:

I imagine such a power being present in someone effectively processing countless unseen trials, like that of a program, filing it down done until it falls into the deterministic framework it'd need to exist in the first place, a situation where seeing into the future changes nothing. It kind of ends up working out like Groundhog Day, but without all that expended effort from physically witnessing the time loops.

That's only if you decide that you'll try to change the future you see, even if it's unchangeable. Otherwise it's not unchangeable.

To have it be otherwise would have your future sight be inconsistent, changing every single time you use that power. Your seeing the future in such a case would seem no different than daydreaming, albeit with a few surprisingly accurate clues, since seeing said future would influence all of your decisions to the point of massive butterfly effect tangents. 

If seeing you ate pizza for breakfast one morning makes you eat Cheerio's instead, you could have a very different day ahead of you.

So upon trying to eat pizza a time cop comes in and forced some cheerios down your mouth

I've never read that one. 

It's one of the solutions to the grandfather paradox, basically saying "you just won't be able to kill your grandpa".

I'd mostly been going with The Grandfather Paradox being resolved with "You clearly failed to accomplish your goal", whether because of multiple instances of the self fighting itself to make it stable (if not "Time Cops" or something silly like that that otherwise intervenes with the path)... or simply because the goal itself wasn't doable through other seemingly disconnected factors. It doesn't answer the hypothetical that's posed of "Okay, but what if I did succeed, what then?", it just throws a small degree of unfalsifiability onto Determinism. 

It's similar to the "Could God make an object even He couldn't lift?" kinds of questions, where the answer in a simpler form can be "Yes, for the moment" in that it doesn't technically answer the question in a truly conclusive way.

 Of course he could. He also could lift it when it seemed fitting.

But nobody can lift Xadem's big fat cunt trailerpark mom or the massive bag of insecurity that follows Xadem. I mean the guy started his whole campaign against Luna because he felt insecure being ignored by her KEK. Talk about reeking of insecurity. This whole joke on Xadem's expense really only works because it's so blatantly obvious from everything he does the guy's the most awkward type of virgin you come across.

John Smith said: 

To have it be otherwise would have your future sight be inconsistent, changing every single time you use that power. Your seeing the future in such a case would seem no different than daydreaming, albeit with a few surprisingly accurate clues, since seeing said future would influence all of your decisions to the point of massive butterfly effect tangents. 

If seeing you ate pizza for breakfast one morning makes you eat Cheerio's instead, you could have a very different day ahead of you.

So upon trying to eat pizza a time cop comes in and forced some cheerios down your mouth

Or you end up somehow stuck in a scenario where all you could eat that morning is pizza, and perhaps the events that led to looking upon that point in time and trying to change it was meant to happen to have you stuck eating pizza in the first place. 

Time cops and parallel universes strike me as lazy writing, but the writing that accounts for every deterministic element almost seems too clever to be how it'd resolve closing loops (like the movie Primer). 

I've never read that one. 

It's one of the solutions to the grandfather paradox, basically saying "you just won't be able to kill your grandpa".

Oh, I figured you meant a solution to the Grandfather Paradox. 

I'd mostly been going with The Grandfather Paradox being resolved with "You clearly failed to accomplish your goal", whether because of multiple instances of the self fighting itself to make it stable (if not "Time Cops" or something silly like that that otherwise intervenes with the path)... or simply because the goal itself wasn't doable through other seemingly disconnected factors. It doesn't answer the hypothetical that's posed of "Okay, but what if I did succeed, what then?", it just throws a small degree of unfalsifiability onto Determinism. 

It's similar to the "Could God make an object even He couldn't lift?" kinds of questions, where the answer in a simpler form can be "Yes, for the moment" in that it doesn't technically answer the question in a truly conclusive way.

Of course he could. He also could lift it when it seemed fitting.

Person A:  "So it's not truly something God couldn't lift."

Person B: "It is, for the moment."

Person A: "Then he could lift it." 

Person B: "Not right this moment."


It makes the argument become over what constitutes the word "couldn't". 

Turncoat said: 

Or you end up somehow stuck in a scenario where all you could eat that morning is pizza, and perhaps the events that led to looking upon that point in time and trying to change it was meant to happen to have you stuck eating pizza in the first place.

*omnom* Or you could simply decide not eat anything because you know everyone who goes against their fate gets killed by space monkeys.

Time cops and parallel universes strike me as lazy writing, but the writing that accounts for every deterministic element almost seems too clever to be how it'd resolve closing loops (like the movie Primer).

You may need to create to time cops in order to make a time travel machine in the first place, to avoid paradoxes.

Oh, I figured you meant a solution to the Grandfather Paradox.

Yes, the solution is "you won't be able to kill your grandpa". Simple, right?

I'd mostly been going with The Grandfather Paradox being resolved with "You clearly failed to accomplish your goal", whether because of multiple instances of the self fighting itself to make it stable (if not "Time Cops" or something silly like that that otherwise intervenes with the path)... or simply because the goal itself wasn't doable through other seemingly disconnected factors. It doesn't answer the hypothetical that's posed of "Okay, but what if I did succeed, what then?", it just throws a small degree of unfalsifiability onto Determinism. 

It's similar to the "Could God make an object even He couldn't lift?" kinds of questions, where the answer in a simpler form can be "Yes, for the moment" in that it doesn't technically answer the question in a truly conclusive way.

Of course he could. He also could lift it when it seemed fitting.

Person A:  "So it's not truly something God couldn't lift."

Person B: "It is, for the moment."

Person A: "Then he could lift it." 

Person B: "Not right this moment."


It makes the argument become over what constitutes the word "couldn't".

He both lifts it and doesn't lift it at the same time. Similarly to a quantum superposition.