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Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

There's nothing complicated about simplicity. 

I'd argue that simplicity is one of the most complicated things to look for. 

 Maybe it's less so as a genuine desire when you don't see it as an intellectual challenge

Simplicity is a gem in the rough, if the roughage were complexity. There's tons of artists who've aimed to find it and from it have produced some odd things from it. It's what's found when you've filed down everything into it's most base forms. 

A big part of it is acceptance. 

No, it's an art form, and a highly respectable one at that. There's many Eastern practices that embrace the idea to absurdity, ranging from tree trimming practices to outright Feng Shui.

Are you sure it's that restricted? And, I'm not looking to become enlightened. 

When it's used outside of the art form, it's accepting mediocrity, either from not knowing the difference or choosing to look no deeper. 

When it's a choice, it's acceptance. When it's not a choice, it's ignorance. 

Many a thing someone will say is simple, but isn't simple when you really look at it. Look even at "Sandwiches" and you'll see that what one might call "simple" is actually quite complex. 

Eastern practices for the art of simplicity is less about "Enlightenment" and more about "Upkeep" in a way, like the tending of a Bonsai Tree. It's pruning away the complications to leave yourself with it's simpler forms, which in turn can mean advantages like feeling less distracted by otherwise existing clutter or poor spacing. 

Acceptance is just a way to tell yourself to stop digging, assuming you were digging in the first place. 

That's where I disagree. Acceptance shouldn't be seen as a conclusion. For me it's the first step to accept, and after that it allows me to look at things from a clearer and less emotional perspective. If anything, it's a form of honesty and awareness. 

Acceptance is literally a stopping point, and endings are relative.

Where one thing ends a new thing can begin. 

There's complexity within almost everything, which is why those truly journeying to find it find the path towards it complicated, but then there's those who rush towards assuming they've already found it by simply choosing to not really delve into it's depths. 

Sure, but I'm not apathetic at all, in fact I think I've grown in how I handle things. You're right about the complexity actually, it does require a continuous reminder of self-awareness and honesty. Those things, simple as they are, are actually quite a handful. 

What are your experiences with this? 

I've in general always enjoyed the idea of "Less is More", as it's something I'm not immediately very good at when it comes to art, literature, etc. I admire it from it being an expression done well from others that I struggle to do myself, and from the mental sparking I feel as it expands in my head from something so otherwise simple in appearance (ex: Got Milk). 

My OCD symptoms in the past once found peace in simplicity, as it meant less details to work with. Of course the irony in OCD aiming for simplicity is immediately obvious to the onlooker, as it shows complexity in pretty much every other area.

I can see why acceptance raised a less-than-favourable connotation. This notion of simplicity meaning that you have to remove things doesn't sit well with me. 

What do you figure I'm saying ought to be removed other than what gets in the way of it's simplicity? 

Even an editor of someone else's written works is one who aims for simplicity through reductionism. 

My trip to Japan awakened my senses to a lot of things as well, seeing angles more cleanly cut, patterns more intricately done, train systems more efficiently organized than anything I've ever seen, their art is more about smoothness and textures, their sound quality is cleaner even down to their electrical humming being quieter... 

It showed me how complicated living can be when the differences were laid out in front of me like that. I enjoy the complexity of life, but it's abundance is what makes true, TRUE simplicity such a rare treasure. It's also shown me how much of one's expression can denote their own existing sensory sensitivities. 

 Is this what modern art attempts to emulate? 

That's a very complicated question. 

I'd say Modern Art is more so trying to capture a sense of motion, but it does have simpler aims than some more classical works. 

The geometric shapes period of computer art when it was still relatively new falls into simplicity, but does so almost ironically through how it used the complexity of computer processing to seek it. 

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0 votes RE: I like simplicity
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

There's nothing complicated about simplicity. 

I'd argue that simplicity is one of the most complicated things to look for. 

 Maybe it's less so as a genuine desire when you don't see it as an intellectual challenge

Simplicity is a gem in the rough, if the roughage were complexity. There's tons of artists who've aimed to find it and from it have produced some odd things from it. It's what's found when you've filed down everything into it's most base forms. 

A big part of it is acceptance. 

No, it's an art form, and a highly respectable one at that. There's many Eastern practices that embrace the idea to absurdity, ranging from tree trimming practices to outright Feng Shui.

Are you sure it's that restricted? And, I'm not looking to become enlightened. 

When it's used outside of the art form, it's accepting mediocrity, either from not knowing the difference or choosing to look no deeper. 

When it's a choice, it's acceptance. When it's not a choice, it's ignorance. 

Many a thing someone will say is simple, but isn't simple when you really look at it. Look even at "Sandwiches" and you'll see that what one might call "simple" is actually quite complex. 

Eastern practices for the art of simplicity is less about "Enlightenment" and more about "Upkeep" in a way, like the tending of a Bonsai Tree. It's pruning away the complications to leave yourself with it's simpler forms, which in turn can mean advantages like feeling less distracted by otherwise existing clutter or poor spacing. 

That is not what I'm looking for. Then what the hell is it that I'm doing? 

Acceptance is just a way to tell yourself to stop digging, assuming you were digging in the first place. 

That's where I disagree. Acceptance shouldn't be seen as a conclusion. For me it's the first step to accept, and after that it allows me to look at things from a clearer and less emotional perspective. If anything, it's a form of honesty and awareness. 

Acceptance is literally a stopping point, and endings are relative.

Where one thing ends a new thing can begin. 

Yes

There's complexity within almost everything, which is why those truly journeying to find it find the path towards it complicated, but then there's those who rush towards assuming they've already found it by simply choosing to not really delve into it's depths. 

Sure, but I'm not apathetic at all, in fact I think I've grown in how I handle things. You're right about the complexity actually, it does require a continuous reminder of self-awareness and honesty. Those things, simple as they are, are actually quite a handful. 

What are your experiences with this? 

I've in general always enjoyed the idea of "Less is More", as it's something I'm not immediately very good at when it comes to art, literature, etc. I admire it from it being an expression done well from others that I struggle to do myself, and from the mental sparking I feel as it expands in my head from something so otherwise simple in appearance (ex: Got Milk). 

My OCD symptoms in the past once found peace in simplicity, as it meant less details to work with. Of course the irony in OCD aiming for simplicity is immediately obvious to the onlooker, as it shows complexity in pretty much every other area.

I can see why acceptance raised a less-than-favourable connotation. This notion of simplicity meaning that you have to remove things doesn't sit well with me. 

What do you figure I'm saying ought to be removed other than what gets in the way of it's simplicity? 

Even an editor of someone else's written works is one who aims for simplicity through reductionism. 

In regards to the OCD thing maybe it was more pathological idk

My trip to Japan awakened my senses to a lot of things as well, seeing angles more cleanly cut, patterns more intricately done, train systems more efficiently organized than anything I've ever seen, their art is more about smoothness and textures, their sound quality is cleaner even down to their electrical humming being quieter... 

It showed me how complicated living can be when the differences were laid out in front of me like that. I enjoy the complexity of life, but it's abundance is what makes true, TRUE simplicity such a rare treasure. It's also shown me how much of one's expression can denote their own existing sensory sensitivities. 

 Is this what modern art attempts to emulate? 

That's a very complicated question. 

I'd say Modern Art is more so trying to capture a sense of motion, but it does have simpler aims than some more classical works. 

The geometric shapes period of computer art when it was still relatively new falls into simplicity, but does so almost ironically through how it used the complexity of computer processing to seek it. 

 It was just a random thought. 

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