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I don't do religion. But i can see this ecosystem we're in is a setup. No plants = no creatures. & vice versa.

All of this life reliant on other life consuming and being consumed, keeping the gears in motion, the whole chain or circle. No bees = no humans. 

This is really more of a matter of game theory, and this sort of thing tends to average out based on current needs. 

If we had Fluggoins insteads of Trees, and they were significantly more difficult on us than Trees could ever be, we'd not know the difference from that having been the only life we've been shown. 

The notion of "Intelligent Design" is egoist hogwash meant to have us extrapolate more importance about ourselves than is warranted. We're more like how The Hummingbird evolved to fit it's setting... except it goes further than that from how far back we had symbiotic and parasitic relationships affecting the routes of Determinist causality. 

In our complexity I don't believe we came to be unguided.

Complexity is purely relative, and once we've rendered humans able to be made 100% by machines that myth will be dead. 

Humans aren't hot shit beyond their means of gauging the passage of time. The very concepts we cling to otherwise are what make people terrible. 

They don't know how bacteria could have came to life.

So because we don't know it must be divine

We've had bacteria come to us from space, showing that life has other ways of spreading than just divine intervention, and from that we've begun to devise man-made versions of the same phenomenon for sending ice to Mars. 

Everything can be explained, just not yet. While I agree that there is no Chaos, I don't think someone's at the helm of it all, it's just where everything settled when given an insane amount of time to do so from having inherent properties that call-and-response in ways that show that 'choice' is but an illusion. 

It's not designed, it's balanced, and balance is even crazier to imagine. 

Male and female, is an order. Not an accident. To think an unguided fluke created male and female is absurd. 

We also have species that reproduce in other ways, it's not like there's just one tried and true method here. 

Also, if we were in a world where pregnancy required three people to accomplish, we'd not know the difference and attribute that to higher beings just the same. 

DNA is a code. Commands stored in a genome that carries out instructions to create under circumstance, the way you were formed, and all that pulls you it together is advanced beyond our capabilities to emulate. 

Yet

The Earth isn't even a spec of dust in the universe, and all of this is believed to happen by chance. In the same place.

Relatively it is just a "spec of dust", and we've yet to explore far enough to see if we're "the center of the universe", which is a mad claim to be making really with that much space and a recordable instance of life happening in our case. 

Odds are we aren't the only life out there, and they may even have their own foolhardy religious rigor too. 

The teeth have a purpose and placed conveniently, and we're to believe there was no intelligence in our design, while its coded. That light exists therefore by chance we and countless other creatures have eyes. By chance. This gas we breath, our connection to plants and them to us, is invisible in the space for the light and our vision.

If any of this was any different, and life still found a way as it typically does, we'd not know the difference and would attribute said difference as equally amazing. 

You'd say us having a set of eyes on the back of our head instead of just two in front is "consciously designed" if we had it by noting it's survival practicality instead of looking at the big picture. 

In the end, it's significantly more Darwinian. We weren't given this stuff to survive, we gained and lost traits that assisted us in survival over a long period of time. That which couldn't take the heat burnt away while those who had what was needed for survival, whether essential or merely gregarious (see Human Neoteny), is simply the case through much Process of Elimination. 

Check a Madagascar documentary. That and things like it show how Life isn't so simple in design, and is really more of an improvisationally morphic ooze. 

These codes are more advanced than anything we've written. And we believe we've become more refined over time for no reason but its all just convenient from nothing. 

We're very far from hitting humanity's true potential. We need to hit a point of handing our humanity over to machines fully and truly, imo.

Sound is a thing and once again, the dots are connected with the manifestation of the ear. We still think this is unguided, meanwhile the other countless creatures of vast species have ears too. Same with smell and all that goes with it from one end to the other. Water is a must, and it happens to be here, and it can fly and travel around the world and fall from the sky.

This is as simple as common ancestry. We can seek out root sources for our traits like a timeline. Evolution's not that crazy a concept.

Science finds we are made of star dust.

It's not that crazy of a concept.



"Everything is Connected."

100% The chicken came before the egg, as an egg must be fertilized to hatch.

Something else could have laid the egg that made what we've labeled "The Chicken", and what made it could have been something that only laid an egg as a beneficial mutation as opposed to having been the norm back then. It's more likely that egg laying was an early evolution though, based on our current understanding of the timelines. Keeping eggs in our body is actually the anomaly, and isn't really present outside of most mammals. 

Everything in life life is borrowed, including the physical body, and the experiences it provided and what we've done with it, will be up for review. We'll certainly judge ourselves when our moments are played back before our eyes. Kinda like how Slay watched footage of himself on the six o clock news.

"It's nature witnessing itself" is how Alan Watts puts it, kind of like the lifestream from Final Fantasy 7 but a lot more complicated: 



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The only thing that makes reincarnation insane is thinking that your mind could travel alongside of it. We otherwise compose and decompose out of the same materials that make up everything else like one giant sandbox full of sand constructs and castles. 

If we feel like we're being monitored, we wouldn't experiment and do as we will. It would hold us back from developing. When asked i say this life is a part of our making. 

We could just as easily study twice as hard to be defiant of said monitoring, it's not really a factor imo. 

While science is in search, there are those who make claims of what happens when we die without any scientific discovery. 

Some think this can all happen unguided, some don't.

I for one think this could have happened on it's own, very easily, based on how much has died to get us to this very point we're typing* to each other in now. It's not just some gift, it's built in the backs of death. 

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Actually, I tasted death a few times now and I can confirm we are eternal. 

 

You don't "die" after you die. You don't cease to exist. 

 

Your consciousness and your soul is forever

 

It's not possible for us to "die" it's just leaving this plane and into a different one.

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Blanc said: 

Actually, I tasted death a few times now and I can confirm we are eternal. 

 

You don't "die" after you die. You don't cease to exist. 

 

Your consciousness and your soul is forever

 

It's not possible for us to "die" it's just leaving this plane and into a different one.

What's your basis for this? 

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Of course aubri doesn't care about life... She doesn't care about anything at all anyway! Even if there isn't any afterlife, those who say that nothing that they do in life matters will always create conflict with those who do care about what actions they take in life.

And who do you think will win in the end? Hmm? It's pretty obvious if you look at it from a logical, an ethical and a pathological perspective. Those who care will always triumph and have more children than those who do not. Which means that their genes will live on in a so called "afterlife" and the the ones who never took deliberation behind their motives will die off, in this world and the next to come

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enutsur said: 

those who say that nothing that they do in life matters will always create conflict with those who do care about what actions they take in life.

Who's to say a balance between them couldn't be found? It's not like it's a binary perspective, it's got layers

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Blanc said: 

Actually, I tasted death a few times now and I can confirm we are eternal. 

 

You don't "die" after you die. You don't cease to exist. 

 

Your consciousness and your soul is forever

 

It's not possible for us to "die" it's just leaving this plane and into a different one.

 You cant prove this, this is just what your delusional mind wants to believe

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