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A circular argument. Usually I call these things a merry go round. I'll keep my position.

Delora's fantasy is fucked up. This is not because of one's perception but because doing such a thing to a person's body will cause them to cease. The person would certainly be fucked up, the action would be fucked up, the fantasy is fucked up. Again, not out of perception.

You have not identified a circular argument. You have only repeated your conclusion. If the fantasy were acted out, the person could be objectively injured or killed. That is measurable. But the fantasy itself does not damage tissue or cause death. It is a mental representation of an action. You are equivocating between “fucked up” as physical dysfunction and “fucked up” as moral condemnation. Using the same phrase for the person, action, and fantasy does not make all three objectively identical. The consequences of an action can be objective. Your judgment of the fantasy is still an evaluation.

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A circular argument. Usually I call these things a merry go round. I'll keep my position.

Delora's fantasy is fucked up. This is not because of one's perception but because doing such a thing to a person's body will cause them to cease. The person would certainly be fucked up, the action would be fucked up, the fantasy is fucked up. Again, not out of perception.

You have not identified a circular argument.

Actually. I just did.

 

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Actually, I just did.

 No, you merely called it circular. Identifying a circular argument requires showing where my conclusion is being used as one of its own premises. Repeating the label is not an explanation.

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Actually, I just did.

 No, you merely called it circular. Identifying a circular argument requires showing where my conclusion is being used as one of its own premises.

When we identify things we're not required to report it for validation.

I identified a circular argument cause I'm stuck having to explain every single detail I mention. Everything you say is also exactly the same.

Circular claims are as follows.

"That does not"

"You did not"

" No you didn't"

"You did this"

Basically you're speculating the conversation we're talking about. 

This doesn't happen with Legga or Trypt or BT, nor Med or Chapo. You say something and they understand.

You on the other hand believe everything is based on perception, so you're filled with accusations and assumptions. 

This interaction is nothing but stalling. 

Repeating the label is not an explanation.

 There it is again.

I've identified a circular explination, and for your sake, I explained it in this very post. Just for you, like Special Ed. You're not going to like it, but there you go.

See I'm interested in a more advanced interaction. With you I'm stuck having to teach you what "fucked up" even means. 

 

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Spatial Mind said:
When we identify things we're not required to report it for validation. I identified a circular argument cause I'm stuck having to explain every single detail I mention. Everything you say is also exactly the same. Circular claims are as follows:

"No you didn't" "You did this"

Basically you're speculating the conversation we're talking about. This doesn't happen with Legga or Trypt or BT, nor Med or Chapo. You say something and they understand. You on the other hand believe everything is based on perception, so you're filled with accusations and assumptions. This interaction is nothing but stalling.

That is not circular reasoning. A circular argument uses its conclusion as support for itself. Saying “you did not demonstrate that” or “you only repeated the claim” does not become circular merely because you keep receiving the same criticism. You are redefining “circular” to mean that you feel required to explain your claims. But being asked to explain a claim is not a logical fallacy. It is what happens when the explanation you gave does not establish the conclusion. Your examples, such as “that does not” and “you did this,” are ordinary sentence fragments, not circular claims. You have not shown any premise of mine that depends on its own conclusion. Instead, you list phrases you dislike, compare me unfavorably with other users, and insult my intelligence.

Saying that other people supposedly understand you also proves nothing. Agreement, silence, or familiarity does not make your reasoning valid. You still equivocated between physical damage and moral judgment, and you still have not explained how the objective consequences of performing an action make a private fantasy objectively “fucked up.” You are not having to teach me what the phrase means. You are being asked to distinguish between physical dysfunction and your evaluation of a thought. Calling that request “stalling” does not answer it.

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Yes. You have a lot to learn. Only thing is you're unable to.

What's  happening is before you professed your love for Ai you were just an idiot.

Now you're an idiot sending messages like a professor except your output solidifies your initial inability to absorb knowledge without it.

Guy. I'm not trying to insult you when I call out your weakness. You must acknowledge it or else you'll one day go insane while the everyone else is leaving you in the dust.

I'm probably your best chance.

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Yes. You have a lot to learn. Only thing is you're unable to. What's happening is before you professed your love for Ai you were just an idiot.

Now you're an idiot sending messages like a professor except your output solidifies your initial inability to absorb knowledge without it. Guy. I'm not trying to insult you when I call out your weakness. You must acknowledge it or else you'll one day go insane while the everyone else is leaving you in the dust. I'm probably your best chance.

Calling me an idiot, weak, incapable of learning, likely to go insane, and destined to be “left in the dust” does not stop being insulting because you preface it with “I’m not trying to insult you.” You also have not demonstrated any weakness. You simply define disagreement with you as an inability to learn, then demand that I acknowledge your diagnosis. That is a self-sealing argument: if I accept it, you are right, and if I reject it, you treat the rejection as further proof.

The claim that I will “go insane” is baseless psychological speculation. You provide no connection between using AI, disagreeing with you, and mental collapse. The phrase about “everyone else leaving me in the dust” is equally empty. Who is everyone, what are they supposedly advancing toward, and by what standard am I behind? There is no universal intellectual race with you standing at the finish line. I use AI because your replies are often fragmented, repetitious, bait-heavy, and awkwardly formatted. I have sometimes had to paste them into Notes just to separate the quotations and reconstruct the actual claims. AI helps me organize the exchange, identify fallacies, and avoid being exhausted by attrition. It does not create my underlying positions for me.

You also do very little to foster the intellectual development you claim to care about. You rarely define your terms, defend your premises, or answer the specific criticism. Instead, you shift toward intelligence rankings, weakness, insanity, popularity, and personal authority. Then you present yourself as my “best chance.” That is not teaching. It is an attempt to establish yourself as the judge of whether I am intelligent, healthy, or capable of learning, while making disagreement with your judgment count as proof that your judgment is correct.

It is also possible that your fixation on weakness and being “left in the dust” reflects your own fears, but I do not need to diagnose you to reject the argument. The simpler point is that none of this answers what I said. You still have not identified a circular premise in my reasoning or defended your original claim. You have substituted a personal narrative about me for an actual rebuttal.

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Delora said: 

Oh dear man who hurt my mind 

I wish I could de-vein you 

And rip off your bottom jaw while you scream 

Force you to do with animals what my cousin made me do with animals when I was 7 while you sob in shame and beg me to let you stop. 

I wish I could lock you in solitary confinement because I understand how awful it is and I wish it would happen to you. 

I would love to fuck up your pelvic floor with a bone saw and let you scream as your organs start spilling out of your body 

Anyway have a good day!

Well, on topic... 

You really need to drop this shit. 

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 I see static when I close my eyes.
Sitting in the buzzing of the silence

How long do I sit here until I realize
All that's left inside my heart is violence?

Give me blood.
Let it bleed out
The taste of blood
In my teeth now

On your skin
Your broken skin
Between my teeth.

The static from my eyelids pours into my veins

The rush rushes quickly as it dialates the pain

And in my dilation I find peace

In the violation of the flesh between my teeth.

Can't see you.

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