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  I need to scratch an itch, that itch being writing to other humans without the pressures associated with upholding other relationships. So I'm going to write a journal to keep me on track for a goal that I have, fasting for 48 hours. As of recent my body has been demanding me to fast after an admittedly long bender of around 3 weeks of drinking. I didn't gain weight nor lose muscle mass (maybe an indiscernible quantity) in this frame. After about a week of intermittent fasting some kind of internal push has given me reason to believe it would be beneficial to fast for 48 straight. 

  After picking up fasting, I've noticed that I can think better and have greater verbal fluency when debating others, making small talk etc. However It's like I'm still catching up with life when it comes to this, communication in general. Though I'm primarily the one to pick up the pieces others scatter around like thumbtacks nobody seems to care when I get pricked. It seems like agony to recognize that I do talk about myself with friends but none of it matters, it only matters when others are hurt. It only matters when I need to deal with it. So this is one thing that I will deal with for myself. 

You shouldn't be so hard on yourself, I'm so sorry that happened, your friend is being too rigid, sorry to hear that, do you want me to listen, do you want advice, how does that make you feel, how come, extrapolate for me, why are they like that, I can see why you would be angry, in your position blah blah blah blah blah

  So sick of it but I do it to myself. I'm a pretty confident person but I swear if I am destined to shoulder the brunt of other people's mistakes I'm just straight up going to rope. Everyone does it to me and it won't stop. Unless I'm piss drunk then, only then do I talk about anything even remotely related to the stuff I go through then the conversation always shifts away from the black pit in the back of my mind that refuses to be addressed and someone else relates to what I feel, then the conversation is placed on their woes instead. Because I can deal with it yeah, I get it but fuck. I have never met another human being with this issue and it is driving me up a tree. It's probably something I'm doing wrong. I ask all the questions and lead the conversation any which way I desire and it always lands on other people. I don't like talking about myself but still the desire to be heard is there and I can't find a way to fix it. 

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last edit on 10/29/2025 5:41:03 AM
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Is that 48 days or 48 hours ? Probably hours. 

Last November I fasted for 28 days straight. In 2 days I don't recall any differences. 

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Is that 48 days or 48 hours ? Probably hours. 

Last November I fasted for 28 days straight. In 2 days I don't recall any differences. 

 Hours. There's studies out there that say 72 hours is the best if you're trying to reap the benefits from a short term fast. Even for short fasts there is a lot of evidence that suggests you can live longer and decreases the chance of cancer by a significant margin. 28 days is insane. Did you have a lot of body fat when you started/did you lose a lot of muscle if not? How would you refeed after such a long duration. I've fasted for 5 days and nearly passed out from low blood pressure even after introducing food slowly. 

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cx3 said: 

Is that 48 days or 48 hours ? Probably hours. 

Last November I fasted for 28 days straight. In 2 days I don't recall any differences. 

 Hours. There's studies out there that say 72 hours is the best if you're trying to reap the benefits from a short term fast. Even for short fasts there is a lot of evidence that suggests you can live longer and decreases the chance of cancer by a significant margin. 28 days is insane. Did you have a lot of body fat when you started/did you lose a lot of muscle if not? How would you refeed after such a long duration. I've fasted for 5 days and nearly passed out from low blood pressure even after introducing food slowly. 

 The amazing part. I never felt hungry at all. After 12 hours and you know you're not going to have anything to eat. I then understood the difference between craving and actual hunger. 

When to the health food store. Picked up some Electro-Mag which is this powder supplement that supplies us with electrolytes, which is essential for maintaining hydration. I'd take it every other day cause I never felt like melting it in hot water before cooling it. Taste like Neo Citron.

There's this other liquid mineral I took, 2 drops a day in one of my many drinks, which of course was water. I forgot the name, it's around here somewhere. Grand total for both supplements was 90 bucks.

I did have some weight to carry on with the fast, otherwise It would've been difficult. 

Day 14 is the point where people give up but I kept on going. 

I created a playlist of food shorts while I was fasting, cause food looks so good when we're not eating it. It sounds like I'm torturing myself but I was getting some type of dopamine out of admiring it. 

When we eat we do get a hit of dopamine, it's very enjoyable. So there comes a point where we start to feel a bit, I wouldn't say depressed, but something about it starts to suck.

I must've farted twice and it was like fresh air upon inspection. 

It was like I was pissing spring water.  

I was shooting for 30 days, but by day 28 I was feeling really sick of water. Started feeling unsafe, so I walked to the grocery store to pick up a watermelon. I damn near died walking up a measly 20 degree hill for 5 minutes. Rested at the top in front of the grocery story. 

When I went in I was disgusted by everything I saw. I only wanted fruit. Felt like I was going to gag. I understood anorexia how someone with that needs to eat something like grapes or watermelon for awhile before eating something more solid. Grabbed the melon and took off. 

On the way back down the hill I thought I wasn't going to make it. It crossed my mind to pick up a branch and stab that melon and start feasting, and it crossed my mind to just give up and sleep on the sidewalk. 

Got home, knife and spoon and went to town, started feeling better real quick and passed out. When I got up I had eggs, and was back to eating normal by day 29ish. 

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The result. 

I have a mild condition of eczema and some condition where my head is always more tanned than the rest of my body, but that went away. Lost weight, can't remember how much. maybe 30 lbs. People seemed more friendly and conversations seemed to happen more easily, boosted confidence, They say it resets the liver, but I have no real way of knowing, but I had this glow. Clear mind. Strength gradually returned and I was bursting with energy. The whole time my piss was clear and that carried on for awhile. Very clean mouth, tongue is very pink, and on that note, brushing our teeth while fasting is very annoying as the taste of toothpaste feels like it may deactivate the state of ketosis and kickstart the stomach. 

Other stuff I can't think of. I wrote about it somewhere in here in some random thread. Over all I would say it's quite easy except at the end. The last days was too difficult/worrisome plus tired of water ( That seriously happens) and I was motivated to break the fast even though I only had 2 days to go. 

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The effect has to do with mental tendency to refuse temptation. You can get a similar effect by playing a game where you do the opposite of what tour brain tells you to do. If your brain tells you to walk, run. If your brain tells you to sit, stand. If your brain tells you to eat, starve.

The effect of fasting is real. I do it once a week, 36hr or so, every Saturday. Sometimes over the weekend.

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Jada said: 

The effect has to do with mental tendency to refuse temptation.

The Body will go into a state of ketosis without something to digest, regardless of the mindset.

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Sure. I have been in ketosis for years.

The positive effects however additionally come from exercising discipline.

last edit on 10/30/2025 11:14:58 PM
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Jada said: 

Sure. I have been in ketosis for years.

The positive effects however additionally come from exercising discipline.

 Mmnnyes.

Starts kicking in after 12 hours, but it can be set to 100% in a day. Hold on a sec Professor, I'll confirm. ( Nathan It's a day ! right Nathan !? A single day ! Eh !? ). 

Yeah it is. 

Just some regular walking and keeping busy can get you there in 24 hours, or else it'll take up to 4 days. 

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I've been breaking ketosis regularly since February which is 3 months after my fast. When you go long with it, you feel a buzzing sensation. Feels like it's in the blood. As though countless into the trillions of DNA ori is grinding away at unused reserves for replication and the gears of the Helicase is grindy, and it's happening to all of them over time gradually until all of them are grindy, the blood really seems to fizzle. Totally feels like soda. I think that causes the body to dehydrate quicker which is why we take electrolyte supplements when going long to stay hydrated. 

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cx3 said: 

  I need to scratch an itch, that itch being writing to other humans without the pressures associated with upholding other relationships. So I'm going to write a journal to keep me on track for a goal that I have, fasting for 48 hours. As of recent my body has been demanding me to fast after an admittedly long bender of around 3 weeks of drinking. I didn't gain weight nor lose muscle mass (maybe an indiscernible quantity) in this frame. After about a week of intermittent fasting some kind of internal push has given me reason to believe it would be beneficial to fast for 48 straight. 

  After picking up fasting, I've noticed that I can think better and have greater verbal fluency when debating others, making small talk etc. However It's like I'm still catching up with life when it comes to this, communication in general. Though I'm primarily the one to pick up the pieces others scatter around like thumbtacks nobody seems to care when I get pricked. It seems like agony to recognize that I do talk about myself with friends but none of it matters, it only matters when others are hurt. It only matters when I need to deal with it. So this is one thing that I will deal with for myself. 

You shouldn't be so hard on yourself, I'm so sorry that happened, your friend is being too rigid, sorry to hear that, do you want me to listen, do you want advice, how does that make you feel, how come, extrapolate for me, why are they like that, I can see why you would be angry, in your position blah blah blah blah blah

  So sick of it but I do it to myself. I'm a pretty confident person but I swear if I am destined to shoulder the brunt of other people's mistakes I'm just straight up going to rope. Everyone does it to me and it won't stop. Unless I'm piss drunk then, only then do I talk about anything even remotely related to the stuff I go through then the conversation always shifts away from the black pit in the back of my mind that refuses to be addressed and someone else relates to what I feel, then the conversation is placed on their woes instead. Because I can deal with it yeah, I get it but fuck. I have never met another human being with this issue and it is driving me up a tree. It's probably something I'm doing wrong. I ask all the questions and lead the conversation any which way I desire and it always lands on other people. I don't like talking about myself but still the desire to be heard is there and I can't find a way to fix it. 

 I also like to binge drink before fasting.

 

The best way that I've found as an anorexic alcoholic:

Day 1-30: 2-13 ipas/day, boosts estrogen for better fat distribution. The hops in an ipa make it so that the alcohol fat doesn't only go to your gut, but mostly your chest and ass which is preferable even for men. Upon moving into your fast, the excess estrogen from drinking 13 ipas per day also suppresses appetite, increases rate of fat burning, and preserves muscle.

Actual fasting, day 31, 400 ipas in: Mix himilayan pink salt into your water past 12 hours so you don't pass out and sip something with high magnesium and potassium, like coconut water or body armour drinks. Don't drink things like body armour or vitamin water past day 1.5 or you'll get sick. Do not drink or eat anything more than 25 calories at 14.8 bmi or up to 45 calories for some higher bmis in the span of like a 3 hour window or you'll break your ketosis and ruin the fast. 1/2 oz 80 proof vodka = 30 calories. A cup of coconut water = 30 calories. Before you get too light-headed, walk ideally 4 mph (1 mile per 15 minutes) for 50 miles. It only takes 13 hours and it's hard to eat while walking. This is the equivalent energy loss of 3 days of fasting. Just add another day or 2 to the fast if you can't walk the full 50 miles. Other forms of exercise may be possible, just make sure to pour some salt into your drinking water so you don't pass out.

Day 33: The best way to suppress appetite is to stress yourself out if anxiety makes your appetite lower. Or go to the spa to relax if you're a stress eater. Do other things, or just sleep. I prefer to be sort of comatosed but don't do any drugs. The mind altering state of the fast is more than enough to get you high.

Day 38: Break the fast with a bowl of long duration simmered bone broth for the minerals and McDonald's.

 

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13 hours a day on foot is pretty bonkers if you ask me. 

When I was 14 I was broke and far away from home in an unfamiliar area. No map and obviously no GPS. I had to go westbound. I kept hitting dead ends. which meant I had to go back and head southbound trying to find a clear path west. It kept happening. Finally I decided to scale a fence with spikes at the top, I through my jacket up and was able to cross. 

It was dark, I ended up thrashing through a field of tall grass, like a dried swap or something for like 1500 meters. 

Long story short it took 7 hours. When I look it says I couldn've done it in 4 hours so I wasted 3 hours or so trying to find a way.

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I also ended up getting this strange rash on my arm that wouldn't go away, it was quite itchy.

I was in highschool at the time, and all us boys would roughhouse. Headlocks, wrestling, punch in the jaw, basketball to the face, wedgies, pile ons, wet willies, drop kicks, sparing, play fights, real fights salad/nutmeg/tunnel scraps you name it, we were a rowdy bunch in uniform. Then. The rash. It started changing. It's a ringworm !

All the rowdy guys at school started getting ringworm, every badass, the whole lot of us. I never seen a single chick get it. It was an illness attacking just the scoundrills like a divine plague forcing us to behave. Like a selective epidemic. Like monkeypox to a homosexual. Some got ringworm on their neck on their arms, face legs. One guy got it on his scalp and there was a bald spot. He was a negro too so he wasn't able to comb over his hair on this spot on the back of his head. And it was me and I know it ! I know for a fact I picked it up in that field of tall grass, and I thrashed through it as fast as I can cause I figured I'd get attacked by some animal defending its nest or litter or whatever territory I might have stepped on.

Still. The epidemic was so much fun. I can still picture the faces of all the girls and their smiling eyes as they had some incentive to reject us. 

last edit on 11/18/2025 7:11:06 PM
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