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Elli watches as the choo choo train passes her on the track, now headed for 16384 women and children, almost as many as the number of fatalities in the Wanggongchang Explosion disaster in Beijing in 1626.

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Lil zero sum, pull the lever, or double the number of bodies tied to the track?

last edit on 10/30/2025 11:43:03 PM
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I say bring the simulation to the very end, until there's no one left. What good is a simulation if the obvious is explored ?

Why not score a Type 1 civilization while the simulation literally only impacts no one in the world except it's participants.

This game can empower it's participants for real. The universe itself is a simulation, and we're simulating in the simulation.

Imagine if Nathan got his turn, he'd pull the trigger, and we'd get the obvious mundate typical outcome. But if we make it to the end and break the game. That's a higher awareness. 

Imagine when you grow old and you look back at this Double It game. What's more interesting ? Saying "Yeah we broke the game like a Type One Civilization !" or would you rather "Yeah Nathan pulled the lever and saved the world by genocide...." then what vibration of energy comes out of that ? In the box, unimaginative, shortsighted energy, no adventure. Only 1 path would even make a better goal for a video game. 

Look how Dragoon passed.

Could be out of spite. Could be for some other reason. Maybe it's his logical way of avoiding accountability. Who knows. But the choice has him shining brighter, like the uncool has become cool. It's a finger to the sheeple out there, who devolve with little to no potential to achieve......*Slowly turns to your direction*...... Type 1. Civilization.

Go for the Type 1. 

Get the Type 1.

Achieve the Type 1.

The simulation will see the simulation. The Universe will notice us. This will stand out. It's different. It's rare. You'd be surprised how one's prayers will be answered when the Universe is smiling at you.  Get the Type 1 !  

last edit on 10/31/2025 1:30:59 AM
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Type 1 civilization is naive when it can simply be skipped directly for the creation of a dyson sphere which would require complete pillaging of all resources and life-forms including those not yet discovered which violates my ethical principles of reducing suffering. If we save everyone and have faith for a Type 1 civilization, yes that would be wonderful. But unrealistic and improbable due to reasons previously mentioned in this thread, probability science, etc. I will pass.

last edit on 11/4/2025 11:28:42 AM
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Type 1 civilization is naive when it can simply be skipped directly for the creation of a dyson sphere which would require complete pillaging of all resources and life-forms including those not yet discovered which violates my ethical principles of reducing suffering. If we save everyone and have faith for a Type 1 civilization, yes that would be wonderful. But unrealistic and improbable due to reasons previously mentioned in this thread, probability science, etc. I will pass.

 Boooooo you ended the game boooooo Tony's idea was fun 

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Lil zero sum, just to make sure I get this right, are you passing on Spatial's idea, or are you passing on pulling the lever?

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Type 1 civilization is naive when it can simply be skipped directly for the creation of a dyson sphere which would require complete pillaging of all resources and life-forms including those not yet discovered which violates my ethical principles of reducing suffering. If we save everyone and have faith for a Type 1 civilization, yes that would be wonderful. But unrealistic and improbable due to reasons previously mentioned in this thread, probability science, etc. I will pass.

That would be a Type II civilization.  

It's said we cannot skip Type 1 to reach Type 2 which is a civilization that can harness energy from a sun/star and beam it anywhere they need it. 

If anything like a Dyson Sphere were created without Type 1 mastery, we'd certainly get billed for the energy, and such things as inflation will continue to increase the global crime rates in the grand scheme.

Type 1 would be that reversal point, where Energy becomes dirt cheap and onward toward free. New technologies would emerge from something like that, Cheaper greenhouses would increase the food supply driving costs down. Such technology would gradually become mainstream where we'd probably be able to produce energy from home, or some hotshot will build units for entire neighborhoods where the cost to maintain the tech would be split between hundreds or homes where no one would really feel the expense. In effect being a Type 1 would make humanity into a more benevolent species, which to me seems to be a universal law for us to become an interstellar species.

On top of that Ai and robotics will drive the prices of goods down since the cost of hourly wages would be non existent. There will come new companies that allow the customer to design their own automobile, the Ai will co-create with the client and the vehicle can be scrapped together very quickly. Probably in a day at some point. And it will be cheap, since the masses have less money it's bound to become more valuable until no longer required.  

There will be some form of socialism, and it will be good. There would have to be considering all of the work being taken over by robotic servants. 

A great reset in which we're resistant to. Where we'll only borrow things for as long as we like, which is pretty much what we're already doing now with the illusion of ownership in this temporal state we're living.

Money becomes obsolete, while people's value will no longer be measured by fortune. 

Type 2 is roughly the same as a Type 1, with the exception of being able to make something like a Dyson Sphere, and draw even more power and have the power to deflect asteroids and other threats to the globe. They can also transmit as much energy as they need far beyond the solar system if required. 

As long as we're killing ourselves over the same reasons, we'll never develop into an interstellar species. The human brain will be properly developed at some point. 

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In reality SpaceX is is the only company closest to being able to manufacture a satellite based dyson sphere. They'll send robots to Mars to build the infrastructures needed to accomodate life over there. Boring company is also a key component to what we could say is Elon's vision, as living on Mars will entail underground cities.

For a dyson sphere it would be similar, we'd have to send Ai machines to Mercury to mine materials and create the tech and railgun the produce into the sun's orbit. 

That's when a corporation becomes more powerful than a government as the ability to transmit energy from the sun can also be weaponized in worse ways than nuclear weapons as we know them. And it can be done from Mars, or somewhere on Earth.  As we are, we totally would do that to ourselves, while a Type 1 civilization and up wouldn't.

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To be clear, i'll point out the dyson sphere I was referring to would be satellite based. Though I'm not sure if that's even possible to do either. There would have to be trillions of them orbiting the sun, and constantly some will have to be replaced from solar flare activity. 

The amount of material required to build one to encase the Sun would require more material than all of the planets in our solar system combined, plus shielding it, if possible would would cancel out the Goldilocks zone and kill us.

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Double it and give it to the next person.

Why ?

Keep doing this and no one dies. 

Eventually the number of bodies will be unrealistic even for some psycho.

 I think this is teh real solution..... we all setup an infinite rail system where everyone just keeps the train running forever, forever doubling infinitely. we could even let peopel ride teh train

last edit on 11/6/2025 9:32:59 PM
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Jada said: 

Lil zero sum, just to make sure I get this right, are you passing on Spatial's idea, or are you passing on pulling the lever?

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Jada said: 
Jada said: 

Lil zero sum, just to make sure I get this right, are you passing on Spatial's idea, or are you passing on pulling the lever?

Both. 

He's going for Type II civilization. 

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