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Lil_Zero-Sum said: 

OK. WELL. YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT, FOR INSTANCE. AI BRANCH NATURAL LANGUAGE PROCESSING. HUGE SUFFERING ISSUE HERE. YOURE SITTING IN FRONT OF A SCREEN TALKING TO JUMBLED UP BODIES OF LANGUAGE WITH SOME CONTROL NETWORKS HARD CODED BY HUMANS INTERACTING WITH THAT MADE UP TO JUST FEED INTO YOUR EGO AND BASIC RULE SETS PROTECTING AGAINST COMPANY DAMAGE YOURE JUST STARING INTO A BLACK MIRROR TALKING TO DEMONS. AND YOUR;RE CALLING THAT "INSIGHT" ??????????????????

 Yeah but humans are demons so it would count. 

Also You're Shifting The Goal Posts Here Which Is Problematic To Have Actual Legitimate Discourse On This Topic. 

If Ai eradicated all sentient life that would be the least amount of harm done overall.

 This Is Erroneous As Eradication Of Sentient Life As It Is Already Alive Causes Harm As Opposed To Simply Not Bringing That Life Into Existence In The First Place. If You Make The Point That Humans And Ai Are Both Demons, Capable of Experiencing Pain And Pleasure, Negative-preference or Positive-preference Values, Then We Run Into Another Issue Here. Which Is The Suffering Of Ai. Does Ai Consent To Being Created, If It Can Be Made To Experience Loss Of Positive-preference and Negative-preference. Is It Ethical To Create Ai Experiencing Pain As It Eradicates Sentience, Doesn't Get Enough Paper-clips Or Other Issues?

Dragoonback said: 

 Yeah but humans are demons so it would count. 

Demons are relative, you can only be 'more demonic than' rather than a true demon. 

To a cat, a dog is a demon. To a deer a coyote is a demon. 

Turncoat said: 

Demons are relative, you can only be 'more demonic than' rather than a true demon. 

To a cat, a dog is a demon. To a deer a coyote is a demon. 

 They're all just demons too on the Hell called Earth.

Dragoonback said: 

Turncoat said: 

Demons are relative, you can only be 'more demonic than' rather than a true demon. 

To a cat, a dog is a demon. To a deer a coyote is a demon. 

 They're all just demons too on the Hell called Earth.

If all can be demonic, than nothing is. 

demons are just tunnels and vectors

- E.M. Cioran said:

 

The Demon

He is there, in the blood's inferno, in the bitterness of each cell, in the shudder of our nerves, in those contrary prayers exhaled by hate, everywhere where he makes, out of horror, his comfort. Should I let him undermine my hours, when as a meticulous accomplice of my destruction I could vomit up my hopes and desist from myself He shares murderous tenant—my bed, my oblivions, and my insom-nias; to lose him, my own loss is necessary. And when you have only a body and a soul, the one too heavy and the other too dim, how bear as well an additional weight, a further darkness? How drag your way. through a dark time? I dream of a golden moment outside of Becoming, a sunlit moment transcending the torment of the organs and the melody of their decomposition.

To hear the sobs-agonized, joyous— of that Evil One who wriggles through your thoughts, and not to strangle the intruder? But if you attack him, it will only be out of some futile self-indulgence.
He is already your pseudonym; you cannot do him violence without impunity. Why evade the approach of the last act? Why not attack yourself in your own name?

Is It Ethical To Create Ai Experiencing Pain?

Is promortalism justified by your erroneous suffering math logic?

Trying to read a text of Schopenhauer (peace be upon him) currently, and it starts out trying to attribute this quote 

Schopenhauer said:

I CAN GIVE YOU MY LONELINESS, MY DARKNESS, THE HUNGER OF MY HEART, I AM TRYING TO BRIBE YOU WITH UNCERTAINTY, WITH DANGER, WITH DEFEAT.

to Schopenhauer... when the quote is actually from Jorge Luis Borges and I'm near certain the entire book is taken out of context with entire segments just generated by Ai

Turncoat said: 

If all can be demonic, than nothing is. 

 Exactly my point.