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Jada said: 

If you're done with Spatial then I'd be curious if you have thoughts on this:

What do you think of Thomas Sowell's point that the way the left is trying to fix the race problems actually widens the gap between the races in the longer term because we're not allowing black people to fairly compete with white people?

I don't know Thomas Sowell, but I can make general statements about the point you claimed he typed as it appears to be from a position that does not know of his work. 

The idea assisting other races being what holds them back would make sense only if there was no infrastructure already in place that's holding people down. By providing this money through taxes towards infrastructure, rather than handing the money directly to those who suffer, there stands to be the means of reformatting a lot of what still holds them down purely as an economic issue. 

As I see it, the problem is in trying to sell motivation to the next generation. To compare with women's plight in the US, as more of them are born and raised in households with a working mother we see daughters more likely to model off of that and become workers themselves rather than express patriarchy's learned helplessness model as an echo. Handouts do Harm, but restructuring the issues they themselves may not even know how to fix makes sense. 

The issue needs to be handled as an economic one rather than a racial one, but based on historical context that has put certain races in worse starting positions as a matter of statistical averages. As long as that skew is demonstrated we'll continue to see offspring from unsuccessful homes echo the same lack of success more often than we see someone try to better themselves from a suffocating environment of poverty. You need proper sleep and food even to function in an academic environment, and that's the basics before going into issues like asbestos and lead paint still being a big thing in lower income neighborhoods. 


So to me, it makes sense that having a quota of people across different races in the work place will do two things: 

a) Have more children across the racial spectrum be born of successful working parents, allowing DEI to become a thing of the past naturally. 
As more kids are born to successful working parents, we'll see said kids be more statistically likely to succeed themselves. We see it with college attendance rates and the quality of work someone is willing to accept based on their skillset and expectations. 

b) Passively instill racial tolerance in the work place over having them work alongside other races every day.
We see The Left trying to do the same thing with Television, even though a lot of the early attempts fail over poor writing as people who 'don't get it' trying to write towards those who do. It's like trying to sell America's Live Action Mulan to Asians; The attempt isn't good enough and at points can border on feeling like appropriation and a lack of representation. 

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There's more than enough rhetoric that you've typed out in topics sprawling across this website, and past trials quoting them at you have just resulted in you acting unstably. 

So that's your excuse to not to prove yourself ?

I never acted unstable over someone quoting me. I'm quite consistent, and how does one pull that off you wonder ? Simply sticking to the truth. 


I'm going to try to handle this responsibly and step back from here; once you get like this it becomes entirely unproductive.

Says you of course. As if your goal is to repair me while it's all slander without evidence. I do think you'll manage to fool the foolish though. And of course I have no choice but to think they're foolish for going on your word. Literally no choice. 

Through a mix of ramping up hyperactivity through a defensive lens, you seem to drop a remarkable amount of details out of what you've read from an opposing debater. It starts easier but then you start taking it all too personally which demonstrates in the writing, and then once oversensitive you both become less empathetic to help with defending yourself during a short-circuit. 

You had an episodic meltdown when I wrote a piece about women being free willed and to do as they please for their own reasons. 

You still have not corrected your outburst and made clear why what I said is worthy of despise. I wrote the thing 3 times. 

Also I can assure you my responses are taylored to the conversation. I do not use materials or phrsises from, Dragoon, Legga, Inquirer, Tryptamine, TPG, Cavalier, or anyone I might have missed. 

You say the details are remarkable, then we're to believe you're the only one of the small group smart enough.

The rest of your post is you doubling down on your false claim, while the burden of proof is on you. 

I fear the Lord's wrath, you do not. I'm more disciplined to serve the truth.

And I know the Lord hates a lying tongue, Nathan. 

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Actually if you believe in an afterlife or imaginary figure/godleaderthing, then you are less likely to tell the truth as you have less incentive to care about truth (earthly material reality).

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Actually if you believe in an afterlife or imaginary figure/godleaderthing, then you are less likely to tell the truth as you have less incentive to care about truth (earthly material reality).

 I believe in a higher power. No reason to deny or debate me on that. I am therefore incentivised to stick to the truth. 

Regardless of one's belief, any ass would know I think crossing the Lord comes at a very high price. I think in Nathan's case he's already paying in some way, for example he's not looking very plausible, plus he only has you Dragoon who happens to be the village football these days. 

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Nathan doesn't associate with me at all, lol. Only in your wildest accusations, are me and TC buddies, ideologically or personally.

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But the commonality that I see, is one that you will never admit. Yeah I think a lot of the people here are colorful/primal/creative/autistic (or whatever more fitting term) people, including yourself, and dislike the world becoming more logical, instead of sentimental and traditional or primal. The only difference is in expression. I'm more fine with the world becoming more logical and less primal, while being annoyed with people like you out of my own similarities and understanding of your own mentality and desire for regress. Nathan is more like you in these ways, only different in being fine with social progressivism, which in your insane mind, makes him just like me.

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Nathan doesn't associate with me at all, lol. Only in your wildest accusations, are me and TC buddies, ideologically or personally.

 Oh I already saw you turn against him too. What's for certain is you're the only one he has in this argument, granted you've inserted yourself in his favor. And it's not a blessing coming from you. I also said you and him are alike, and why ? Cause you're both pretentious assholes. 

 

But the commonality that I see, is one that you will never admit. Yeah I think a lot of the people here are colorful/primal/creative/autistic (or whatever more fitting term) people, including yourself, and dislike the world becoming more logical, instead of sentimental and traditional or primal. The only difference is in expression. I'm more fine with the world becoming more logical and less primal, while being annoyed with people like you out of my own similarities and understanding of your own mentality and desire for regress. Nathan is more like you in these ways, only different in being fine with social progressivism, which in your insane mind, makes him just like me.

 On the contrary, you lack understanding and are blinded by hatred. Don't you know hatred causes you to stumble ?

You slap labels on others as a way for you to behave like the Karen you are. Really, you don't know me. You don't really know anyone here as you're still kind of a noob and don't have a strong history. Even to Tryptamine who historically is tolerant of foolery and gets along fine with everyone on a broad scale, seems annoyed with you.

In my opinion degeneracy is regressive, and even more so when it's forced on others under the guise of inclusion. 

If your tongue were able to manifest reality, Japan would go extinct alongside other events that would wipe us out. Your way is the way of mismanagement.

I understand you were put up for adoption, and while that's unfortunate for you, I'm assuming somewhere in your upbringing you were adopted, but brought back. Just an assumption, but could be it for all I know. Probably, yes. Mhm. Yes. of course, yes yes, yep, ye correct, has to be. Mkay.  

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