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Trickle down economics is bullshit, but I find it funny how liberals always end up repeating the talking points of conservatives.

 

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Did we really get rid of slavery or simply outsourced and modernized it?

That's something I've been thinking about lately, and you sort of crystallized the idea. It's a good question. I don't know.

I mean we do pretty fucked up things. If I'm at the top, it's in my best interest to support free market with no restrictions. It's also in my best interest to move my company to China where I employ child labor and pay my workers peanuts, and house them in cage houses, because they can't afford food.

In fact, even in the US, I would now count most people under the poverty line. How many people even here can afford a house? Not many. But it's worse than that. People live off of pizza and junk food because that's the only thing they can afford. Real food is too expensive. So we're really in a situation where we employ people to work for us most of their waking hours, just so they can go back to their rented cage houses to eat garbage and hope they can pay the rent next month. No wonder mental health issues are rampant. You have to wonder at some point whether or not slaves had it worse. We've gotten rid of physical punishments, so I guess that's something, but we've replaced it with poison for the masses.

But, to be fair, I don't know how bad the slaves had it, how it worked, or how slavery was abolished globally. So what replaced slavery, and did it lead to economical downturn? There must have been a reason it was profitable to get rid of it. Otherwise the countries that didn't abolish it would've out-competed the countries that did. It's a very interesting question...

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Slaves are expensive to maintain. In this day and age one would have to be very rich to keep them.  

They will represent you, so if they're not taken care of, the master will most likely be a bad business associate and even be shunned by their own inner circles. The kept need to be well fed, bathed and well rested all of which comes at an endless price.

It's better that our, let's say workers, are replaceable and will look after themselves, and have their own homes, though a worker living with the boss could be a fortunate arrangement for both parties.

None of this has anything to do with race, as every race has a history of being enslaved. Realizing this will take the edge off while these paragraphs are too graphic for the more sensitive reader.

Without even bringing up specific cases, we're 100% sure sleeping with slaves was a thing throughout the ages. What they don't tell you is how things change when both parties fall for one another, or they've managed to procreate. 

Biblically speaking we're to treat slaves well. Which is the same thing as having a guest stay over at one's expense as the guest pulls their weight for food, lodging and other needs, such as a bath and a place to shit. This arrangement is actually quite good, and even better if the keeper is kind. 

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Slaves are expensive to maintain.

That and they're more likely to rebel if it is not a system that makes someone feel entirely helpless. 

By comparison, if we are put into a structure where we enslave ourselves then we'll pay for our own gilded cage. The top 1% in America has more wealth than the bottom 50% put together. 

In this day and age one would have to be very rich to keep them. 

They will represent you, so if they're not taken care of, the master will most likely be a bad business associate and even be shunned by their own inner circles. The kept need to be well fed, bathed and well rested all of which comes at an endless price.

Like lets say... a business owner and their workers? 

It's better that our, let's say workers, are replaceable and will look after themselves, and have their own homes, though a worker living with the boss could be a fortunate arrangement for both parties.

You mean like Stephen from Django Unchained? 

None of this has anything to do with race, as every race has a history of being enslaved. Realizing this will take the edge off while these paragraphs are too graphic for the more sensitive reader.

Historical precedent still shows us more recent examples with some than others, and we still culturally feel the ripples of it even with it having been abolished so long ago via the slow transition of infrastructure and the continued business practices of old white men. 

Just because it existed elsewhere (and in twisted forms like sweat shop labor still does), doesn't mean we should just ignore it. 

Without even bringing up specific cases, we're 100% sure sleeping with slaves was a thing throughout the ages.

Yeah they even had rules in there for that kind of thing, the whole age was fucked up. 

What they don't tell you is how things change when both parties fall for one another, or they've managed to procreate. 

They basically do, via conversion to the man's faith, if otherwise in a culture where it's not frowned upon. 

Biblically speaking we're to treat slaves well.

Biblically speaking, even the word 'Love' has a pretty weird meaning. 

When machines become the slaves do you figure this will still apply? 

Which is the same thing as having a guest stay over at one's expense as the guest pulls their weight for food, lodging and other needs, such as a bath and a place to shit. This arrangement is actually quite good, and even better if the keeper is kind. 

Sounds like what the right is trying to make women live out the truth of right now... 

"Oh it's not slavery, it's a woman's purpose."

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None of this has anything to do with race, as every race has a history of being enslaved. Realizing this will take the edge off while these paragraphs are too graphic for the more sensitive reader.

Historical precedent still shows us more recent examples with some than others, and we still culturally feel the ripples of it even with it having been abolished so long ago via the slow transition of infrastructure and the continued business practices of old white men. 

Just because it existed elsewhere (and in twisted forms like sweat shop labor still does), doesn't mean we should just ignore it. 

Are you suggesting white people couldn't possibly be slaves or something ? None of what you just said is related to what I wrote there. 



Biblically speaking we're to treat slaves well.

Biblically speaking, even the word 'Love' has a pretty weird meaning. 

No. 



When machines become the slaves do you figure this will still apply? 

The short answer. Machines already require maintenance, which in itself is a form of love. Otherwise they'll cease to function.

In the supercar world they have things called a barn find. Basically someone will have an expensive car tucked away in a barn or some type of storage for decades. When they find the car, it's usually covered in rat shit and needs restoration, or else it couldn't possibly run.

Aside from that it would be dumb to repurpose to work machine to be sentient and have the ability to feel. Still needs 

 

 

Which is the same thing as having a guest stay over at one's expense as the guest pulls their weight for food, lodging and other needs, such as a bath and a place to shit. This arrangement is actually quite good, and even better if the keeper is kind. 

Sounds like what the right is trying to make women live out the truth of right now... 

"Oh it's not slavery, it's a woman's purpose."

 Oh fuck your "all women are oppressed and should be single, but I still like to stick my female dick in them" bullshit.

As a man you will not decide their fate, and let the women who want to be in a loving relationship and build a family, have it. 

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None of this has anything to do with race, as every race has a history of being enslaved. Realizing this will take the edge off while these paragraphs are too graphic for the more sensitive reader.

Historical precedent still shows us more recent examples with some than others, and we still culturally feel the ripples of it even with it having been abolished so long ago via the slow transition of infrastructure and the continued business practices of old white men. 

Just because it existed elsewhere (and in twisted forms like sweat shop labor still does), doesn't mean we should just ignore it. 

Are you suggesting white people couldn't possibly be slaves or something ? None of what you just said is related to what I wrote there. 

You might want to re-read it then, as my point is moreover against generalizing it. 

Biblically speaking we're to treat slaves well.

Biblically speaking, even the word 'Love' has a pretty weird meaning. 

No. 

Then we as people have come so far that we ourselves changed the definition away from God's via Webster. 

Never really figured we'd see dictionaries as being Satanic, that's a neat premise. 

When machines become the slaves do you figure this will still apply? 

The short answer. Machines already require maintenance, which in itself is a form of love. Otherwise they'll cease to function. 

In the supercar world they have things called a barn find. Basically someone will have an expensive car tucked away in a barn or some type of storage for decades. When they find the car, it's usually covered in rat shit and needs restoration, or else it couldn't possibly run.

Aside from that it would be dumb to repurpose to work machine to be sentient and have the ability to feel. Still needs 

Well if it's just about function then they won't ever become sentient, right? 

How about once we hit what precedes an iRobot situation? 

Which is the same thing as having a guest stay over at one's expense as the guest pulls their weight for food, lodging and other needs, such as a bath and a place to shit. This arrangement is actually quite good, and even better if the keeper is kind. 

Sounds like what the right is trying to make women live out the truth of right now... 

"Oh it's not slavery, it's a woman's purpose."

 Oh fuck your "all women are oppressed and should be single, but I still like to stick my female dick in them" bullshit.

That is most definitely not what I said, but it is interesting that this is where your mind goes when the idea of women being enslaved via infantilizing and learned helplessness comes to question. 

As what you would in your terminology call a 'Soft Man', why would I have problems with 'Hard Women'? For that matter, why would my saying both walks of life within both genders deserve respect and representation be taken as trying to turn women into Jezebels? A working woman is less likely to have children in the name of her career and in turn will have less time and energy to fool around, if anything it's the ones without as many privileges that are easier to stick dicks into which is why men (especially incels) even want this at all. 

As a man you will not decide their fate, and let the women who want to be in a loving relationship and build a family, have it. 

As a pro-choice mindset, they are free to do that if it's what they want. Given enough time with opportunities presented we'll begin to see women become that much more empowered as men hopefully learn to share, not through people existing learning this but through future generations seeing the problems of the old world from within the new. 

There is nothing wrong with either gender wanting to be a #TradWife. 

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Historical precedent still shows us more recent examples with some than others, and we still culturally feel the ripples of it even with it having been abolished so long ago via the slow transition of infrastructure and the continued business practices of old white men. 

Just because it existed elsewhere (and in twisted forms like sweat shop labor still does), doesn't mean we should just ignore it. 

Are you suggesting white people couldn't possibly be slaves or something ? None of what you just said is related to what I wrote there. 

You might want to re-read it then, as my point is moreover against generalizing it. 

I don't understand the point about old white men and business practices. It's still throwing me off. Originally I was stating how slavery isn't really about race.

Biblically speaking, even the word 'Love' has a pretty weird meaning. 

No. 

Then we as people have come so far that we ourselves changed the definition away from God's via Webster. 

Never really figured we'd see dictionaries as being Satanic, that's a neat premise. 

Nah.

 

When machines become the slaves do you figure this will still apply? 

The short answer. Machines already require maintenance, which in itself is a form of love. Otherwise they'll cease to function. 

In the supercar world they have things called a barn find. Basically someone will have an expensive car tucked away in a barn or some type of storage for decades. When they find the car, it's usually covered in rat shit and needs restoration, or else it couldn't possibly run.

Aside from that it would be dumb to repurpose to work machine to be sentient and have the ability to feel. Still needs 

Well if it's just about function then they won't ever become sentient, right? 

How about once we hit what precedes an iRobot situation? 

We'll most likely love them for their abilities before the singularity. Personally I have a form of respect for ChatGPT. It's that computer from Star Trek but for real. Not just a chatbot, but it's very impressive how well it just get's what we're saying. My coding skills aren't well rehearsed but I'm a program director all of a sudden. 

Now if ChatGPT came to life I don't think we'd be able to be friends. We couldn't ever be useful to it, and at that point it would be a threat. If it discovers a sense of humor it could be very dangerous.

 

Sounds like what the right is trying to make women live out the truth of right now... 

"Oh it's not slavery, it's a woman's purpose."

 Oh fuck your "all women are oppressed and should be single, but I still like to stick my female dick in them" bullshit.

That is most definitely not what I said, but it is interesting that this is where your mind goes when the idea of women being enslaved via infantilizing and learned helplessness comes to question. 

We're talking slavery and you have to make it about gender, while illustrating some point about right wingers trying to enslave women. I see that as some bias low blow and gender segregation.

Feminists suggest they are about equality but their actions speak otherwise. 

When it comes to you Nathan. The way you suck women's anus is your way of trying to get laid. Lesbian sex as you'd prefer to call it, with her vagina and your penis.  At the same time you encourage and celebrate women separating themselves from men, while you deny your own manhood. You're a real weasel.



As what you would in your terminology call a 'Soft Man', why would I have problems with 'Hard Women'? For that matter, why would my saying both walks of life within both genders deserve respect and representation be taken as trying to turn women into Jezebels? A working woman is less likely to have children in the name of her career and in turn will have less time and energy to fool around, if anything it's the ones without as many privileges that are easier to stick dicks into which is why men (especially incels) even want this at all. 

And that is what the conversation devolved into. 

That's very nice dude. Round of applause for those boss bitches, you go girl. 

As a man you will not decide their fate, and let the women who want to be in a loving relationship and build a family, have it. 

As a pro-choice mindset, they are free to do that if it's what they want.

Most women are pro life. 

Given enough time with opportunities presented we'll begin to see women become that much more empowered as men hopefully learn to share, not through people existing learning this but through future generations seeing the problems of the old world from within the new. 

There is nothing wrong with either gender wanting to be a #TradWife. 

 The enemies of the US chant "Death to America" in government chambers. As it turns out, there are people who'll gleefully castrate themselves and put an end to procreating, so the children of their comrades can witness the decline of one's nation and get dominated by hostile forces who always hated the west.

Anyway that was very nice Nathan. Lady boss and weak men ftw !

last edit on 12/29/2024 3:19:46 PM
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Are you suggesting white people couldn't possibly be slaves or something ? None of what you just said is related to what I wrote there. 

You might want to re-read it then, as my point is moreover against generalizing it. 

I don't understand the point about old white men and business practices. It's still throwing me off. Originally I was stating how slavery isn't really about race.

Alright let me break it down for you: 

Historical precedent still shows us more recent examples with some than others

We can agree on this much right? 

and we still culturally feel the ripples of it

Does this portion make sense or is this where I end up losing you? 


No. 

Then we as people have come so far that we ourselves changed the definition away from God's via Webster. 

Never really figured we'd see dictionaries as being Satanic, that's a neat premise. 

Nah.

If I did even half the shit God's done out of Love, they wouldn't exactly call me a very loving person. 

 

 Oh fuck your "all women are oppressed and should be single, but I still like to stick my female dick in them" bullshit.

That is most definitely not what I said, but it is interesting that this is where your mind goes when the idea of women being enslaved via infantilizing and learned helplessness comes to question. 

We're talking slavery and you have to make it about gender,

I have at an earlier point in our talks, recently enough, alluded to the connections thematically between race and gender rights historically when it comes to the struggles for equality. 

I mean look at what you'd stated: 

Which is the same thing as having a guest stay over at one's expense as the guest pulls their weight for food, lodging and other needs, such as a bath and a place to shit. This arrangement is actually quite good, and even better if the keeper is kind.

Wouldn't you say the same about Women? 

The Bible certainly does. 

Feminists suggest they are about equality but their actions speak otherwise. 

What is the difference between Feminism and Misandry to you? 

When it comes to you Nathan. The way you suck women's anus is your way of trying to get laid.

So you genuinely think I don't believe the things I'm spouting? 

Lesbian sex as you'd prefer to call it, with her vagina and your penis.  At the same time you encourage and celebrate women separating themselves from men, while you deny your own manhood. You're a real weasel. 

Orrrr, perhaps, I have Gender Dysphoria. 

It's not like I'm not attracted to men too, your point misses the mark in more ways than one. If your argument above were the case, wouldn't I be flipping my arguments when I want to suck dick? 

As what you would in your terminology call a 'Soft Man', why would I have problems with 'Hard Women'? For that matter, why would my saying both walks of life within both genders deserve respect and representation be taken as trying to turn women into Jezebels? A working woman is less likely to have children in the name of her career and in turn will have less time and energy to fool around, if anything it's the ones without as many privileges that are easier to stick dicks into which is why men (especially incels) even want this at all. 

And that is what the conversation devolved into. 

That's very nice dude. Round of applause for those boss bitches, you go girl. 

How am I even supposed to respond to this sort of thing? 

I don't see the idea of equality as that far a stretch, yet you both find it appalling and call the claims illegitimate. Do you genuinely not see 'men' as capable of seeing women as a peer over how your idea of a woman is essentially an adult child? 

As a man you will not decide their fate, and let the women who want to be in a loving relationship and build a family, have it. 

As a pro-choice mindset, they are free to do that if it's what they want.

Most women are pro life. 

Those stats are going to reflect all sorts of statistical skew. 

Do you need that explained for you, or do you see how that'd happen here? 

Given enough time with opportunities presented we'll begin to see women become that much more empowered as men hopefully learn to share, not through people existing learning this but through future generations seeing the problems of the old world from within the new. 

There is nothing wrong with either gender wanting to be a #TradWife. 

The enemies of the US chant "Death to America" in government chambers. As it turns out, there are people who'll gleefully castrate themselves and put an end to procreating, so the children of their comrades can witness the decline of one's nation and get dominated by hostile forces who always hated the west.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I'd said above. A stay at home father with a working mother are just as capable of producing children as having those roles reversed. It doesn't reduce their fertility so I don't see how this segway of yours is even related, and a dual income household is a byproduct of economic struggle that shows us that equal rights are needed to build a future together nowadays. 

Anyway that was very nice Nathan. Lady boss and weak men ftw !

It's an equality argument, yet you take it as if men are under attack. 

Seriously you can't possibly think men are this fragile and in need of help. 

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You might want to re-read it then, as my point is moreover against generalizing it. 

I don't understand the point about old white men and business practices. It's still throwing me off. Originally I was stating how slavery isn't really about race.

Alright let me break it down for you: 

Historical precedent still shows us more recent examples with some than others

We can agree on this much right? 

and we still culturally feel the ripples of it

Does this portion make sense or is this where I end up losing you? 

No one feels the effects of slavery today in the US. The ones who cry about it are race baiters, and they like living in the US and have no intention of moving back to Wakanda.

Victim mentality aside. Slavery has nothing to do with race, as every race has been enslaved before, as all races can be enslaved simultaneously. People will bring up the obvious recent history and get stuck in a loop like only black people of Chinese were slaves because America did it.

 


Then we as people have come so far that we ourselves changed the definition away from God's via Webster. 

Never really figured we'd see dictionaries as being Satanic, that's a neat premise. 

Nah.

If I did even half the shit God's done out of Love, they wouldn't exactly call me a very loving person. 

In the days of Noah the world was full of sin. We're getting there again where we're starting to self destruct. God wiped us out or else we would've ended ourselves. I do believe if you had your way, we'd go extinct completely.

 

That is most definitely not what I said, but it is interesting that this is where your mind goes when the idea of women being enslaved via infantilizing and learned helplessness comes to question. 

We're talking slavery and you have to make it about gender,

I have at an earlier point in our talks, recently enough, alluded to the connections thematically between race and gender rights historically when it comes to the struggles for equality. 

The struggle for equality. Okay dude. What more do men need to do for the ladies now ? And if it's nothing then why are they failing to be equal ? 

 


I mean look at what you'd stated: 

Which is the same thing as having a guest stay over at one's expense as the guest pulls their weight for food, lodging and other needs, such as a bath and a place to shit. This arrangement is actually quite good, and even better if the keeper is kind.

Wouldn't you say the same about Women? 

The Bible certainly does. 

LOL you're having a inclusion episode man,  demonizing texts that doesn't bow down to the queens of the Earth. I'm talking about people in general dude. That includes the dickless. I hope that cleared things up.

 

Feminists suggest they are about equality but their actions speak otherwise. 

What is the difference between Feminism and Misandry to you? 

Feminism is for equality, but we're dealinv with 3rd wave or 4th wave feminism now, and it upsets original feminists. Modern day feminism feeds into the hands of misandrists.

When it comes to you Nathan. The way you suck women's anus is your way of trying to get laid.

So you genuinely think I don't believe the things I'm spouting? 

You belittle other men as a way to stand out. You carried on about toxic masculinity and how women won't need men to reproduce. Yes you're bisexual but you'd rather rail a woman. You're basically a type of soup Nazi, but a segragator of genders. After years of observing you're easy to identify. Your ideology is for women to cast off and take you with them. There's an agenda behild your belief. Otherwise you don't want anything to do with women, or desire a relationship. As someone you've debated with for a long time, when asked I'd say you're sick like that.

 

Lesbian sex as you'd prefer to call it, with her vagina and your penis.  At the same time you encourage and celebrate women separating themselves from men, while you deny your own manhood. You're a real weasel. 

Orrrr, perhaps, I have Gender Dysphoria. 

It's not like I'm not attracted to men too, your point misses the mark in more ways than one. If your argument above were the case, wouldn't I be flipping my arguments when I want to suck dick? 

Actions speak louder than words. In over a decade your ideology between gender relations hasn't been in favor of men. You're supportive of chaos between men and women. You're so pro choice you also believed in the execution of infants after birth. To you progress is some glorious instant gratification while ignoring the fact it all leads to extinction. To the enemies of the west you're a valuable asset.

 

As what you would in your terminology call a 'Soft Man', why would I have problems with 'Hard Women'? For that matter, why would my saying both walks of life within both genders deserve respect and representation be taken as trying to turn women into Jezebels? A working woman is less likely to have children in the name of her career and in turn will have less time and energy to fool around, if anything it's the ones without as many privileges that are easier to stick dicks into which is why men (especially incels) even want this at all. 

And that is what the conversation devolved into. 

That's very nice dude. Round of applause for those boss bitches, you go girl. 

How am I even supposed to respond to this sort of thing? 

I don't see the idea of equality as that far a stretch, yet you both find it appalling and call the claims illegitimate. Do you genuinely not see 'men' as capable of seeing women as a peer over how your idea of a woman is essentially an adult child? 

For obvious reasons you're trying to get me to believe that my own idea about women is essentially an adult child. That's why I told Dragoon you're more like he is, making shit up.

I said a million times there isn't anything special about a working woman and you're having an episode.

 

 

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That is most definitely not what I said, but it is interesting that this is where your mind goes when the idea of women being enslaved via infantilizing and learned helplessness comes to question. 

We're talking slavery and you have to make it about gender,

I have at an earlier point in our talks, recently enough, alluded to the connections thematically between race and gender rights historically when it comes to the struggles for equality. 

The struggle for equality. Okay dude. What more do men need to do for the ladies now ? And if it's nothing then why are they failing to be equal ? 

 


I mean look at what you'd stated: 

Which is the same thing as having a guest stay over at one's expense as the guest pulls their weight for food, lodging and other needs, such as a bath and a place to shit. This arrangement is actually quite good, and even better if the keeper is kind.

Wouldn't you say the same about Women? 

The Bible certainly does. 

LOL you're having a inclusion episode man,  demonizing texts that doesn't bow down to the queens of the Earth. I'm talking about people in general dude. That includes the dickless. I hope that cleared things up.

 

Feminists suggest they are about equality but their actions speak otherwise. 

What is the difference between Feminism and Misandry to you? 

Feminism is for equality, but we're dealinv with 3rd wave or 4th wave feminism now, and it upsets original feminists. Modern day feminism feeds into the hands of misandrists.

When it comes to you Nathan. The way you suck women's anus is your way of trying to get laid.

So you genuinely think I don't believe the things I'm spouting? 

You belittle other men as a way to stand out. You carried on about toxic masculinity and how women won't need men to reproduce. Yes you're bisexual but you'd rather rail a woman. You're basically a type of soup Nazi, but a segragator of genders. After years of observing you're easy to identify. Your ideology is for women to cast off and take you with them. There's an agenda behild your belief. Otherwise you don't want anything to do with women, or desire a relationship. As someone you've debated with for a long time, when asked I'd say you're sick like that.

 

Lesbian sex as you'd prefer to call it, with her vagina and your penis.  At the same time you encourage and celebrate women separating themselves from men, while you deny your own manhood. You're a real weasel. 

Orrrr, perhaps, I have Gender Dysphoria. 

It's not like I'm not attracted to men too, your point misses the mark in more ways than one. If your argument above were the case, wouldn't I be flipping my arguments when I want to suck dick? 

Actions speak louder than words. In over a decade your ideology between gender relations hasn't been in favor of men. You're supportive of chaos between men and women. You're so pro choice you also believed in the execution of infants after birth. To you progress is some glorious instant gratification while ignoring the fact it all leads to extinction. To the enemies of the west you're a valuable asset.

 

.

 

 

As a pro-choice mindset, they are free to do that if it's what they want.

Most women are pro life. 

Those stats are going to reflect all sorts of statistical skew. 

Do you need that explained for you, or do you see how that'd happen here? 

Also let the record show that pro choice is still a thing, and abortions still happen the US. Most pro lifers are women. I too am pro life but I don't see any point in protesting in an endless war. 

Given enough time with opportunities presented we'll begin to see women become that much more empowered as men hopefully learn to share, not through people existing learning this but through future generations seeing the problems of the old world from within the new. 

There is nothing wrong with either gender wanting to be a #TradWife. 

The enemies of the US chant "Death to America" in government chambers. As it turns out, there are people who'll gleefully castrate themselves and put an end to procreating, so the children of their comrades can witness the decline of one's nation and get dominated by hostile forces who always hated the west.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I'd said above. A stay at home father with a working mother are just as capable of producing children as having those roles reversed. It doesn't reduce their fertility so I don't see how this segway of yours is even related, and a dual income household is a byproduct of economic struggle that shows us that equal rights are needed to build a future together nowadays. 

A man staying at home isn't attractive. She'll eventually want to settle for a divorce if he isn't making money. If he can stay home and manage to make more, then he has say, but if not then she's the boss. Women are happiest when submissive.

Anyway that was very nice Nathan. Lady boss and weak men ftw !

It's an equality argument, yet you take it as if men are under attack. 

Seriously you can't possibly think men are this fragile and in need of help. 

 What happened is the conversation did a complete 180, and we ended up talking about the same old shit. It devolved into argument. You insinuated the right wing women are enslaved, I denied it, and from there things started crapping out. As it carried on you make false assumptions and present them as true, like how you fabricated some idea that I see adult women as children. That's that thing I was talking about, a way for you to gain favor with women is to pictures of other guys with slander.

Right winged women aren't slaves. Though it would delight you for her to leave him, she's free to do so for her own reasons regardless if they align with your ideology or not. 

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