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I think knowing that you made a positive affect on someone's life is comforting.

Like your brother to you.

So you have it backwards, do not seek to be loved, love others and it will return in kind.

LiYang said: 

I think knowing that you made a positive affect on someone's life is comforting.

Like your brother to you.

So you have it backwards, do not seek to be loved, love others and it will return in kind.

 

 uhh do you conservatives really think you are positive? lol. having kids only to subject them to capitalism and hatred is not positive.

Dragoonback said: 

LiYang said: 

I think knowing that you made a positive affect on someone's life is comforting.

Like your brother to you.

So you have it backwards, do not seek to be loved, love others and it will return in kind.

 uhh do you conservatives really think you are positive? lol. having kids only to subject them to capitalism and hatred is not positive

Why do you hate Capitalism so much? It's working pretty well for the United States.

puppygirl said: 

imagine your dieing in a hospital bed......... your kids are crying at your bedside.......... is that comforting to you? that your kids are sad you are leaving them? does that give you one final ego stroke  before it all ends? even at this last moment where life is at an end you still care about your ego? you care that you are loved? that gives you comfort?

thats weird and conceited... its narccistic and irrational

what you should care about is what you contributed to your species to move them foward happily into the future. 

even thinking about your family and how you will miss them is stupid. your moving from one realm of existance to the next and all you can think about is how you don't want to let go? so you go into that goodnight wailing and screaming like a scared child? cowardice.... 

 

stoicism is the ideal i think. it is the least selfish. it does not rely on others for inner peace. you are the universe. why be invested in the emotional state of others?

 if no one cares when you die, you probably didn't contribute much to your 'species'

I did want to be there for my grandmother toward the end, because I wanted her to feel as though she was not alone. And I imagine, as others said, that there is some comfort in knowing that you made a difference, as those who were in your life are there with you at the end.

There is something to be said about stoicism, and not being a miserable drag. I think it depends on how one is dying. Is it years of making your family jump through hoops for you, until they are all exhausted? If not, if you’ve treated your family well, I think they will want to be there.

puppygirl said: 

imagine your dieing in a hospital bed......... your kids are crying at your bedside.......... is that comforting to you? that your kids are sad you are leaving them? does that give you one final ego stroke  before it all ends? even at this last moment where life is at an end you still care about your ego? you care that you are loved? that gives you comfort?

thats weird and conceited... its narccistic and irrational 

stoicism is the ideal i think. it is the least selfish. it does not rely on others for inner peace. you are the universe. why be invested in the emotional state of others?

The least selfish perspective is to give others love, and if they happen to give it back then that was their choice rather than my insistence. 

Best friend lost his Father the same year I lost mine. Only difference is he watched him die while I had to fly 4500 kilometers to bury him without saying goodbye. I wasn't too bothered. 

My friends case was more interesting cause he watched his old man die. He stayed by his side the whole time and was the only one there. Before the old man died, he looked at my friend and said. "Okay buddy it's time, thanks for being here"

From what I gather, we'll appreciate the people who are there, and we won't want them to suffer. After all, there's something bigger to concern ourselves with, like death itself.

Let's put it this way: Do you want your kids or their kids subjected to what you know losers are subjected to while you say that the losers "deserve it for not finding work or proper work and deserve it for not being personally responsible, of course only people with money deserve a home and food, etc."

Do you really want that same logic and purposeful ignorance used to justify their tortured lives?

Or do you think you will stay on top forever?

puppygirl said: 

imagine your dieing in a hospital bed......... your kids are crying at your bedside.......... is that comforting to you? that your kids are sad you are leaving them? does that give you one final ego stroke  before it all ends? even at this last moment where life is at an end you still care about your ego? you care that you are loved? that gives you comfort?

thats weird and conceited... its narccistic and irrational

what you should care about is what you contributed to your species to move them foward happily into the future. 

even thinking about your family and how you will miss them is stupid. your moving from one realm of existance to the next and all you can think about is how you don't want to let go? so you go into that goodnight wailing and screaming like a scared child? cowardice.... 

 

stoicism is the ideal i think. it is the least selfish. it does not rely on others for inner peace. you are the universe. why be invested in the emotional state of others?

 Would you rather have the children experience melancholy, dead in expression and waiting for your passing?
You've expired in use, and now the children carry the flame. Is that what life is to you?

I don't think people on their death bed are happy that their kids cry. They understand that it is a coping mechanism. Maybe some are happy that they meant something to someone, that begs the question:
Does it give dying people satisfaction to see others suffer in their wake?
No, I don't think so. Without suffering, existence would have no happiness with nothing to compare it to. With death, a child may cry to release feelings that they may not be able to process yet. Those tears may be of appreciation for their contributions to the family. What those tears represent is recognition of existence, all of us want to know we exist. Whether or not we succeed in life is determined by people who recognize our existence or exports. The matter, 'work' you present to the world is an image of yourself. I don't think that part of people ever really goes away. The dying, like the dead, want to know they exist.