I forgot to write out the connection I was making between the first post in the thread and the post about AHS. Lmao, I just jumped to talking about AHS randomly.
Maybe you caught it but basically I was saying AHS and the characters in it are another example of “representations” of these unsaid notions, one can hold about society.
So that’s what made this show good is that there was a lot voiced through, the characters, through the “theater/film” aspects, the art, the script the story, all of it. There was so much being said without being said, that people loved it because it was something that resonated with them on some level.
You take that away, you take away the connection and the resonance, you take away the energy that is being built between the viewer and the creator…. And thus kill the show. When something has no energy it loses traction and “hype”
nowadays, people think they can just fabricate fake hype, and we live in a culture surrounded by dense amounts of fake hype that is used by marketing just to fucking survive as companies, entities, businesses…. Investments,…
So it’s like okay, if money is creating a fake world, why the fuck do you want to be in a fake world? Because the alternative is, “unreality” inside this echo chamber of capitalism, or….the Wild West, the unregulated and extremely unpleasant, 3rd world.
So it makes sense artists like cobain and… others were trying to sort of send a message about capitalism and materialism and, “false-ness” not being “real.” And sort of trying to warn people and protect them against it by creating a societally held value that was greater, than money,….
But unfortunately that’s one of the things that this country and many countries struggle to hold onto is their values, whatever they may be.
Just look at how much it’s transformed from the 60s to now… you know. As far as societally held values go, it’s almost night and day.
Anyway… I also wanted to comment on the capitalism topic which is that I’ve noticed that some systems set up essentially very similar to the way an example of how a communist society could potentially operate… and so it’s sort of weird but basically there are miniature and I mean very minuscule connections going on between people that are creating essentially “mini communist entity” within a capitalist society… and those people have an unfair advantage… so like, there’s this whole story we are telling ourselves that we are “one nation, undivided,”
but it’s not true. Nothing is what it seems… I mean literally nothing you take into account at face value is actually what it is in reality.
And I guess this is getting along the lines of seeming like a “woke rant” which segways into a whole other blackpilled discussion about “wokism” and what’s happening with that currently… but yeah. That’s another topic for another day, that I think has already been talked about enough on the internet, tbh. Lol
its all already been said.
That’s why I love talking to random ass people I just want to pick their brain and hear about what they think, and understand the way they think it’s all very interesting to me, these “real conversations” are sort of few and far between these days, it’s hard to say things… you know, because everyone has a pitch fork in hand about it, it’s like when didnsoeaking become a sword fight? Free speech…. Right. No,… that’s not, quite how it works either,…. Oh. Oh okay. So free speech? But not- not quite. Lol there’s a catch!
so there’s all these ideals we sell but they’re not upheld. They’re,…. Undermined. All completely undermined, and I can’t help but wonder, why, and by whom…. What for. And paranoid conspiracies can ensue here…
hah. Which we’ve all heard a million times, nothing new there either.
But yeah, I guess it’s really like, a countries values and core beliefs can make or break an entire country, and it’s very complex as to why. But… the way it’s all formed… it’s all formed around survival.
Survival of the fittest. So, we wanted to pretend that we had created a world that was “safe” from that, horribly true thing about nature and the wild.
but you couldn’t take that nature out of man, and so everything in our capitalist society that’s pretending to be safe, and regulated, is actually, a farce it’s… very much so, the wild west, the jungle, it’s just dressed up in a fucking white collar.
This is very blackpilled. I can only say that, without coming off like I am on some high horse, I have found in my own personal experience that an antidote to survive the blackpilled ness of everything is, gratitude and love… it’s having the maturity to see it for what it is but then to intelligently, take responsibility, to humbly.. respond to this reality, without getting bent out of shape about it, whining, putting up a fight, or letting it become the manifesto to some bizarre, line of thinking that justifies radicalist ideals and… entitled behavior. Criminal actions.
It takes a very mentally strong and balanced level headed person to look at everything for what it is, and then, not let it sweep you away into doing “wrong.” And thinking you’re doing right. So, this is, the center of a lot of plot lines out there… in movies, books, tv, it’s everywhere iterated over and over again.
And objectively it makes me wonder, you know, on some level, this over arching message is sent home to us… from a very young age, and., is it really the truth though? Like what are we being brainwashed to accept as truth and to value, and it goes much deeper than this the conspiracies about media consumption, that’s a whole rabbit hole as well.
They called Kanye absolutely nuts for speaking out about just a tiny bit of it… but yeah, the media… is essentially a beast.
Like I like studying all religion, but in the Bible in Christianity it says in, I believe it’s…. Revelations? The end times, it says there will be large beasts that roam the earth…. Sort of describing them as having taken over, the masses or, being large like… demigods and giants.
As a child I interpreted this literally as like, a dinosaur like reptar or Godzilla, lol
But yeah, I understand now it’s a… eh,,, kind of a metaphorical or symbolic representation or way of communicating about these complex issues and ideas… that yeah essentially the media could be a “beast” or one of the giants of the end times has a lot of power over the earth.
I mean, with genesis the way it started out, by like middle school I had decided okay, genesis is definitely gotta be a metaphor and like a story to tell a larger story in a more succinct way it’s obviously all metaphor and symbolism. But then I couldn’t understand what the symbolism was representing in revelations, I didn’t see it yet. Too naive to know, I guess. Sheltered.
But once your eyes are opened a bit, it’s very difficult to shut them again! And you begin to question everything, not just outside yourself but inside yourself and, you can get a lot of insight, maybe find out about some things you didn’t know before.
Some people would argue ignorance is bliss.
But yeah,… I’ve always been of the mind set when I was like a teenager you know to just, take everything with a grain of salt, if that. And just take it all in but I never accepted a damn thing as “truth” I don’t care how much evidence was stacked up against it you know,…
And because of that I have been able to see through a lot of stuff that people have accepted as “truth” as “true” or “real.” And then to rely upon, to value, to uphold, to believe it to your core.
This is the nature of, cults and brain washing. So I wonder, are we really that different from North Korea? With this very objective perspective.
It’s a willingness to have no opinion for the sake of having no opinion, for the sake of discovery, and research, remaining open and curious, indefinitely.
So when I think about things or talk about things I’m always just playing devils advocate, I’m just pondering, thinking, about, everything, and how it all works and goes together and what it all means.
I guess that’s what it means to be an independent thinker, but a lot of people label them as such and aren’t truly that so, I hate to use that label as people automatically assume oh okay, you’re “one of those people.” Lol and it’s like no… that’s not what I meant.
Im afraid to speak because I don’t want people to assume