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Then you have three presumptions.

1. Guns get into the hands of non-aggressive owners (even with pre-screening)

2. Owners stay non-aggressive

3. The guns never get possessed into new hands through inheritance or theft. 

last edit on 5/6/2023 4:24:25 AM
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It's not a gun issue, people are offloading the blame on a political agenda. As in if people are shooting up buildings, is it really the fault of guns? Obviously not, the problem is that people are at a snapping point with society and want to reject it in the most violent form possible. There is no sense of community or shared identity or a common way forward for all of us, and the alienation causes this. The idea of banning guns is retarded, there's an insane amount in circulation already.

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The idea of banning guns is retarded, there's an insane amount in circulation already.

Instead of going after the guns, we ought to be going after the ammo. 

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People can 3D - print all of that 

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Mcmed said: 

People can 3D - print all of that 

How many will though? 

Some will, but having 3D printing as the sole option has me think that it would still reduce the rate of distribution. 

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Arms trade overseas is not going to stop. It would seem impossible logistically to prohibit ammunition. 

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Mcmed said: 

Arms trade overseas is not going to stop. It would seem impossible logistically to prohibit ammunition. 

The best people can work towards is harm reduction, like raising cigarette taxes to disincentivize cigarette sales. It doesn't fix everything, but some people did quit smoking when the prices became too high. 

Any inconvenience that can be thrown into the process can at least affect demographics, even if not the entire picture. They could then try to market Baton Rounds (rubber bullets) after they find more ways to make them less lethal. 

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It doesn't fix everything, but some people did quit smoking when the prices became too high. 


 Do you have other than anecdotal evidence 
Cigarette sales were only supplanted by e-cigarette sales
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Rubber bullets that’s laughable 

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Mcmed said: 

Do you have other than anecdotal evidence

There are websites that talk about the same things (World Health Organization, American Lung Association, National Library of Medicine), but I am mostly on board with the idea from how I've seen it hit people personally. 

It's like raising the price of gas, it creates challenges for people that can sometimes force a change in older demographics. As for younger people their money situations are much dicier, raising prices could hit them a lot harder than it might a well-adjusted adult. While not a cure for the problem it still serves as Harm Reduction. 

According to a source cited by the American Lung Association: 

Every 10 percent increase in the price of cigarettes reduces consumption by about four percent among adults and about seven percent among youth.
- Tauras JA, O'Malley PM, Johnston LD, "Effects of Price and Access Laws on Teenage Smoking Initiation: A National Longitudinal Analysis," Bridging the Gap Research, ImpacTeen, April 2001.

 

Cigarette sales were only supplanted by e-cigarette sales

They did hit during a very convenient time, and they even tried to market as being 'safer' when the health risks weren't fully researched yet. 🤣

Rubber bullets that’s laughable 

If they were the only ammo people had easy access to, people would feel a need to stockpile normal ammo if they do not otherwise have access to imports or 3D printers. 

That hits a lot of people, and in such a case they are liable to settle for the convenience. Scarcity with less suppliers would raise the price of real bullets, making them become increasingly inaccessible overtime for the common person. 

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