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using wisdom of working with the earth instead of raping the earth


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I sense a great spirit of the fear of lack within my peoples that has been adopted long ago and carries on to this present age  perhaps rape is not the best way to solve all of our problems though

 

 

last edit on 2/23/2023 6:16:40 PM
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Paying It Forward and Reducing Your Carbon Footprint are both good places to start. 

It's difficult to not consume anything, but the problem is moreover how supply and demand has escalated to try to serve overpopulated needs.

Getting ourselves and others to conserve in little ways can at least help as harm reduction, and through transference they may end up appealing to others gradually towards the same ideas themselves, like a contagion

Having looked at other culture's trash disposal practices for example, it shows how population beliefs can spread and make for different ways of handling similar problems. How clean the US streets are compared to other places was built on the back of an idea, reinforced through littering laws and shows like Captain Planet. 

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last edit on 2/23/2023 6:56:02 PM
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Plant beans, they are nitrogen fixing and good for soil.

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this fear of lack is driven by what is known as "the wetiko virus" or "Malignant Egophrenia"  Jung speaks some on this

https://www.awakeninthedream.com/articles/wetiko-in-a-nutshell

https://themindsjournal.com/wetiko/

 

it is the false disempowered self-destructive illusionary version of ourselves  the ape version vs the divine version  egoism and selfishness

 

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I have been noticing it in my own self as well as in our culture  what I have been noticing most importantly is that it causes us to behave in self-destructive ways  and I hope that both myself and humanity can recover from this

 

 

last edit on 2/24/2023 6:38:27 AM
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Paul Levy attempted to enlighten mankind by explaining that we needed to reflect if we wished to work on killing the Wetiko disease inside us or the shadow that befalls us.
 
 

 

I think this really sums it up-  because if we keep repressing stuff into our shadows instead of working through and processing our shadows we will continue behaving self-destructively  but if we do not start soon idk what is going to happen like is there going to be a ww3 soon ?  but I try to think about more wholesome futures for humanity these days

 

 

last edit on 2/24/2023 7:42:20 AM
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In simpler words, a lot of paths try to have you visualize a version of all your bad stuff to proxy into a creature or object, then they have you do things to the creature for some sort of growth, like starving it, casting magic at it, or fist-fighting it or whatever. 


When you present a case for something, when you give it a name, you allow it to live as a part of you partitioned from you, rather than as a part of the whole. When you argue heavily in favor of one camp you open the opposite camp to have just as much of a voice, while consolidating all of it together can allow for it to blend into one cohesive whole. 

The problem with such a model is that now you have given the bad behaviors a name, allowing for the wrong mindsets to even be hitchhiked or joyridden by such forces. The more defined the thing becomes, the more power it can have over one's life as a totem of taboos of other associations being called upon in a distinct way, and in that risks the thing gaining a life of it's own. 

I prefer to see my form like a Motel, rather than an Apartment Complex. I don't need to know the names of the guests in order to house them, and to do so without my express willingness can have me allow too much of them inside. When in my Motel, it's my Rules and things can be kicked out if they don't follow them, which works as a filter compared to if a bunch of things were just Squatting there with some notion of arguing back with me over Squatter's Rights. 

When their time is done, they are logs in a guestbook to call upon as reference, but no longer tenants. 

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last edit on 2/24/2023 8:34:23 PM
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I sense a great spirit of the fear of lack within my peoples that has been adopted long ago and carries on to this present age  perhaps rape is not the best way to solve all of our problems though

 

 

 All I will say, and I mean this in the least condescending way possible, is that this statement is merely a reflection of sentiment and devoid of all other meaning.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, you probably never see it. I am in an environmental field so I see nothing but this: there are thousands and thousands of people who devoted their entire lives to the betterment of both our species and our planet.  Many run fool's errands like electric cars (which irreversibly destroys poor countries like the congo). However, I can assure you that we are in a much better place than we were 100 years ago. Our forests are denser than ever. I kid you not a majority of NY forests were completely removed for agriculture 100 years ago, and today they have some of the most pristine forests in the northeast. The hole in the ozone is effectively sealed. etc etc. we are all working very hard to do as much good as possible.

last edit on 2/24/2023 9:27:02 PM
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In simpler words, a lot of paths try to have you visualize a version of all your bad stuff to proxy into a creature or object, then they have you do things to the creature for some sort of growth, like starving it, casting magic at it, or fist-fighting it or whatever. 


When you present a case for something, when you give it a name, you allow it to live as a part of you partitioned from you, rather than as a part of the whole. When you argue heavily in favor of one camp you open the opposite camp to have just as much of a voice, while consolidating all of it together can allow for it to blend into one cohesive whole. 

The problem with such a model is that now you have given the bad behaviors a name, allowing for the wrong mindsets to even be hitchhiked or joyridden by such forces. The more defined the thing becomes, the more power it can have over one's life as a totem of taboos of other associations being called upon in a distinct way, and in that risks the thing gaining a life of it's own. 

I prefer to see my form like a Motel, rather than an Apartment Complex. I don't need to know the names of the guests in order to house them, and to do so without my express willingness can have me allow too much of them inside. When in my Motel, it's my Rules and things can be kicked out if they don't follow them, which works as a filter compared to if a bunch of things were just Squatting there with some notion of arguing back with me over Squatter's Rights. 

When their time is done, they are logs in a guestbook to call upon as reference, but no longer tenants. 

 

no see this is the wetiko illness trying to hide from observation,  it does not want you to see it as a problem  but if I was infected by a toxic virus I would want to heal it and purge it from my system and it is healthy to think this way  what was unhealthy was for me to try to merge with it and just accept that it was there and let it take over more and I did that until I realized that doing this was making me sicker

 

 

last edit on 2/24/2023 9:11:06 PM
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0 votes RE: using wisdom of working with the earth instead of raping the earth

In simpler words, a lot of paths try to have you visualize a version of all your bad stuff to proxy into a creature or object, then they have you do things to the creature for some sort of growth, like starving it, casting magic at it, or fist-fighting it or whatever. 


When you present a case for something, when you give it a name, you allow it to live as a part of you partitioned from you, rather than as a part of the whole. When you argue heavily in favor of one camp you open the opposite camp to have just as much of a voice, while consolidating all of it together can allow for it to blend into one cohesive whole. 

The problem with such a model is that now you have given the bad behaviors a name, allowing for the wrong mindsets to even be hitchhiked or joyridden by such forces. The more defined the thing becomes, the more power it can have over one's life as a totem of taboos of other associations being called upon in a distinct way, and in that risks the thing gaining a life of it's own. 

I prefer to see my form like a Motel, rather than an Apartment Complex. I don't need to know the names of the guests in order to house them, and to do so without my express willingness can have me allow too much of them inside. When in my Motel, it's my Rules and things can be kicked out if they don't follow them, which works as a filter compared to if a bunch of things were just Squatting there with some notion of arguing back with me over Squatter's Rights. 

When their time is done, they are logs in a guestbook to call upon as reference, but no longer tenants. 

 

no see this is the wetiko illness trying to hide from observation,  it does not want you to see it as a problem  but if I was infected by a toxic virus I would want to heal it and purge it from my system and it is healthy to think this way  what was unhealthy was for me to try to merge with it and just accept that it was there and let it take over more and I did that until I realized that doing this was making me sicker

 

 

 

upon further consieration,  "Once again we are at that mysterious place where the opposites become indistinguishable – is wetiko a disease of the soul that is getting in the way of us fully realizing who we are, or is it an initiation into the very true nature that it is apparently obscuring?"  and whether it can be ultimately judged a good or bad thing,  right now I am feeling very annoyed at feeling lost in it and I hope to find some ways out of it that are significantly refreshing soon

 

 

last edit on 2/24/2023 10:14:56 PM
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Perhaps you should accept your wetiko, to become a whole person. So, what are you running from? 

last edit on 2/24/2023 10:34:46 PM
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