Huh, 20 minutes isn't that bad for that state actually.
...I do not miss the traffic jams I grew up with in that area.That's only when I'm going into SF proper
Even LA wasn't fun for driving, and the road designs around all the hills get really dicey.
I would honestly rather take a glider than drive through LA.
I legit had a chaperone at my private school who gunned it full speed down hills like this in a clunky old van:
Kids were all cheering and exclaiming how cool it was while I kept thinking we were going to die.
Oh fuck no.
Sf has some hills but they fuckin mini compared to this. The zigzag road in SF always fucks with me