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Dove said: 

By your logic you'll opt to keep fighting a war that cannot be won at this point, over cheaper gas.

You say it cannot be won, yet you follow people like Tate who literally is trying to 'take back' masculinity as if it's dying. 

Okay, so you have a solution for women's problems, let's hear it. And be realistic. 

As for Tate. Oh they tried to cancel him, not happening. I like that. The mainstream media, hollywood and all that woke shit they are stuffing down our throats has nothing for straight men. Tate teaches men health and mental health and wealth. This is good.

 

If women make less it's their fault.

That's like saying if black people make less it's their fault, it serves to ignore a lot of factors. 

Oh. So you believe it's not black people's fault they make less ?

Like do you think they are lesser human beings, that they will surely make less money ?

 

Lol Abortion. Get your abortion then, no one is stopping you.

Anymore, no one's stopping it anymore

This year's been a very close call for the US, it's being fixed like, right now. 

No it wasn't. Nothing changed, and the activists took it as a big loss.

My 15 year old Goddaughter brought this up to me, saying how women have no abortion rights. I told her the same thing I told you. 

And yes some of us don't believe in killing unborn human beings. 

 

People are spending thousands on gas and settling for less. Money they don't have. With the state of things, women's rights isn't a priority for everyday people.

Lowering gas prices is better.

Lowering gas prices is a temporary solution, as the price will still be subject to supply and demand as a limited resource. By accepting gas in place of rights you're trading liberty for safety. 

 Everything is temporary, including stability. Better to prolong it.

You can do is cheer and virtue signal woman's rights, but here's the thing. "YOU GET NOTHING DONE".

If you have a solution, let's hear it. Otherwise, gas.

last edit on 10/14/2022 6:32:22 PM
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Dove said: 

By your logic you'll opt to keep fighting a war that cannot be won at this point, over cheaper gas.

You say it cannot be won, yet you follow people like Tate who literally is trying to 'take back' masculinity as if it's dying. 

Okay, so you have a solution for women's problems, let's hear it. And be realistic. 


If you have a solution, let's hear it. Otherwise, gas.

Time and persistence, following the models that worked for other marginalized groups in history while waiting for the old guard to die of old age. 

It's a gradual thing, rather than all at once, but if they relax on this then it stands to regress. 

As for Tate. Oh they tried to cancel him, not happening. I like that. The mainstream media, hollywood and all that woke shit they are stuffing down our throats has nothing for straight men. Tate teaches men health and mental health and wealth. This is good.

My point is that you follow a guy who thinks masculinity is dying, while you claim that masculinity will never die. 

If women make less it's their fault.

That's like saying if black people make less it's their fault, it serves to ignore a lot of factors. 

Oh. So you believe it's not black people's fault they make less ?

Like do you think they are lesser human beings, that they will surely make less money ?

It's more about the economics of the culture around them than the race, as a byproduct of multiple financial factors that by design have kept them down for decades. There's tons of this you can find if you dig into that rabbit hole, it's kinda nuts. 

Plain facts: If you grow up in a poor neighborhood with parents who themselves are poor then you are more likely to model off of that lifestyle, especially if college proves unaffordable and stress, a lack of nutritious food, the availability of alcohol and drugs, poorer sleep, potential exposure to lead paint and lead pipes, and general hopelessness from the environment and from potential peer modeling lower their capacity and reason for getting good enough grades to apply for scholarships. Even something as simple as gentrification serves to keep poor people from rising out of the pit if they are not otherwise given assistance. This is before even questioning if there's enough police problems to lend towards local gangs. 

While much of it is being worked on now it's not fixed. Every little thing adds up and there's a trail of shitty decisions rich white people made when black people were only just starting to adjust to having rights that still have echoes persisting into today. 

Lol Abortion. Get your abortion then, no one is stopping you.

Anymore, no one's stopping it anymore

This year's been a very close call for the US, it's being fixed like, right now. 

No it wasn't. Nothing changed, and the activists took it as a big loss. 

My 15 year old Goddaughter brought this up to me, saying how women have no abortion rights. I told her the same thing I told you. 

I kinda explained this one already. 

People are spending thousands on gas and settling for less. Money they don't have. With the state of things, women's rights isn't a priority for everyday people.

Lowering gas prices is better.

Lowering gas prices is a temporary solution, as the price will still be subject to supply and demand as a limited resource. By accepting gas in place of rights you're trading liberty for safety. 

Everything is temporary, including stability. Better to prolong it.

You can do is cheer and virtue signal woman's rights, but here's the thing. "YOU GET NOTHING DONE".

Then why are so many* men fearing the changes? 

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last edit on 10/14/2022 10:28:34 PM
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Dove said: 

By your logic you'll opt to keep fighting a war that cannot be won at this point, over cheaper gas.

You say it cannot be won, yet you follow people like Tate who literally is trying to 'take back' masculinity as if it's dying. 

Okay, so you have a solution for women's problems, let's hear it. And be realistic. 


If you have a solution, let's hear it. Otherwise, gas.

Time and persistence, following the models that worked for other marginalized groups in history while waiting for the old guard to die of old age. 

It's a gradual thing, rather than all at once, but if they relax on this then it stands to regress. 

So if we wait long enough, all of the bad guys will vanish ? You happen to have a timeline for that ? because we got people struggling before a pending recession here right now. 

 

As for Tate. Oh they tried to cancel him, not happening. I like that. The mainstream media, hollywood and all that woke shit they are stuffing down our throats has nothing for straight men. Tate teaches men health and mental health and wealth. This is good.

My point is that you follow a guy who thinks masculinity is dying, while you claim that masculinity will never die. 

That's your take and opinion. You also see something wrong with what Tate is doing. I don't.

 

If women make less it's their fault.

That's like saying if black people make less it's their fault, it serves to ignore a lot of factors. 

Oh. So you believe it's not black people's fault they make less ?

Like do you think they are lesser human beings, that they will surely make less money ?

It's more about the economics of the culture around them than the race, as a byproduct of multiple financial factors that by design have kept them down for decades. Plain facts: If you grow up in a poor neighborhood with parents who themselves are poor then you are more likely to model off of that lifestyle, especially if college proves unaffordable and stress, a lack of nutritious food, poorer sleep, potential exposure to lead paint and lead pipes, and general hopelessness from the environment and from potential peer modeling lower their reason to get good enough grades to apply for scholarships. Even something as simple as gentrification serves to keep poor people from rising out of the pit if they are not otherwise given assistance. 

While much of it is being worked on now it's not fixed. Every little thing adds up and there's a trail of shitty decisions rich white people made when black people were only just starting to adjust to having rights.

There's more white people in poverty than black people in the US.

So by your logic a western woman is oppressed, while us male folks are giving one another a leg up in society. I don't believe that.

We are responsible for how we think and what we do, and how we think and what we do determines our success in life. In the west, if you're placing blame on others for not succeeding, then you'll probably not make it.

 



Lol Abortion. Get your abortion then, no one is stopping you.

Anymore, no one's stopping it anymore

This year's been a very close call for the US, it's being fixed like, right now. 

No it wasn't. Nothing changed, and the activists took it as a big loss. 

My 15 year old Goddaughter brought this up to me, saying how women have no abortion rights. I told her the same thing I told you. 

I kinda explained this one already. 

Yeah and I'm saying nothing changed. What is the close call ? There was no call for end abortion in congress. Abortion laws are left up to the states, and, tax payers money will not be paying for abortions.

I'm sure you'd be delighted it if taxpayers paid for some whores multiple abortions. Anyway, close call NOTHING.

 

People are spending thousands on gas and settling for less. Money they don't have. With the state of things, women's rights isn't a priority for everyday people.

Lowering gas prices is better.

Lowering gas prices is a temporary solution, as the price will still be subject to supply and demand as a limited resource. By accepting gas in place of rights you're trading liberty for safety. 

Everything is temporary, including stability. Better to prolong it.

You can do is cheer and virtue signal woman's rights, but here's the thing. "YOU GET NOTHING DONE".

Then why are so men fearing the changes? 

 What changes exactly are we talking about ? Is there some new revolution ?

Dude, in my 44 years, I never seen any real change. 

I was on the phone with my lady and I asked her. Women's rights or cheaper gas. She laughed and said cheaper gas. I said I'm talking to a homosexual online and he said women's rights, and she had to pull over to laugh it off. 

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Dove said:>

By your logic you'll opt to keep fighting a war that cannot be won at this point, over cheaper gas.

You say it cannot be won, yet you follow people like Tate who literally is trying to 'take back' masculinity as if it's dying. 

Okay, so you have a solution for women's problems, let's hear it. And be realistic. 


If you have a solution, let's hear it. Otherwise, gas.

Time and persistence, following the models that worked for other marginalized groups in history while waiting for the old guard to die of old age. 

It's a gradual thing, rather than all at once, but if they relax on this then it stands to regress. 

So if we wait long enough, all of the bad guys will vanish ?

The old guys anyway yeah, that's how death works. As younger people take their places they will carry with them their ingrained beliefs based on when they grew up, and if LGBTQ+ ideas are normalized enough for them then they're going to be the ones changing things. 

In the meantime, those in marginalized positions due to elements of their being that are otherwise outside of their control (race, gender, orientation, etc) need to keep up the good fight like defending a hill until those changes truly solidify. 


You happen to have a timeline for that? because we got people struggling before a pending recession here right now. 

Only guesswork based on how trends are changing overtime. 




As for Tate. Oh they tried to cancel him, not happening. I like that. The mainstream media, hollywood and all that woke shit they are stuffing down our throats has nothing for straight men. Tate teaches men health and mental health and wealth. This is good.

My point is that you follow a guy who thinks masculinity is dying, while you claim that masculinity will never die. 

That's your take and opinion. You also see something wrong with what Tate is doing. I don't.

It's literally in his rhetoric, he is trying to turn men back into what 'they used to be'. 

He even uses delightfully dramatic language for it. 


If women make less it's their fault.

That's like saying if black people make less it's their fault, it serves to ignore a lot of factors. 

Oh. So you believe it's not black people's fault they make less ?

Like do you think they are lesser human beings, that they will surely make less money ?

It's more about the economics of the culture around them than the race, as a byproduct of multiple financial factors that by design have kept them down for decades. Plain facts: If you grow up in a poor neighborhood with parents who themselves are poor then you are more likely to model off of that lifestyle, especially if college proves unaffordable and stress, a lack of nutritious food, poorer sleep, potential exposure to lead paint and lead pipes, and general hopelessness from the environment and from potential peer modeling lower their reason to get good enough grades to apply for scholarships. Even something as simple as gentrification serves to keep poor people from rising out of the pit if they are not otherwise given assistance. 

While much of it is being worked on now it's not fixed. Every little thing adds up and there's a trail of shitty decisions rich white people made when black people were only just starting to adjust to having rights.

There's more white people in poverty than black people in the US.

Even if we're to go with that premise that doesn't change societal conditions, it needs to be handled as an economic issue rather than a racial one but the fact that race is involved slows that down. 

Seriously, it's a pretty bizarre rabbit hole to look at all the ways rich white people back in the day set the foundation and groundwork that still makes things difficult for them now. 


So by your logic a western woman is oppressed, while us male folks are giving one another a leg up in society. I don't believe that.

We are responsible for how we think and what we do, and how we think and what we do determines our success in life. In the west, if you're placing blame on others for not succeeding, then you'll probably not make it.

It takes being in a position of privilege to be able to believe that it all comes from hard work. 

There are people who don't have to work as hard to succeed and there are people who have to work three times as hard to make it anywhere, and depending on where you live race and gender can be a determining factor for that. 


Lol Abortion. Get your abortion then, no one is stopping you.

Anymore, no one's stopping it anymore

This year's been a very close call for the US, it's being fixed like, right now. 

No it wasn't. Nothing changed, and the activists took it as a big loss. 

My 15 year old Goddaughter brought this up to me, saying how women have no abortion rights. I told her the same thing I told you. 

I kinda explained this one already. 

Yeah and I'm saying nothing changed. What is the close call?

The thing I described in the post within the link, they set up an entire plan for it that's in the process of being undone now. 

I seriously see it as the right shooting their voting demographics in the foot when plenty of right wing women in the upper income bracket also believe in women's rights, let alone others within the party. With the timing of it and everything I wouldn't be surprised if a leftist were responsible for tricking the right into making these oversteps when the election is otherwise so close by. 


There was no call for end abortion in congress. Abortion laws are left up to the states, and, tax payers money will not be paying for abortions.

There was a call to have it be handled on a state-by-state basis, then following that the plan was to localize people's rights into being solely that of the state on their ID, and following that attempt to limit contraception within these zones. 

It's not as cut and dry as "abortion is illegal", but it'd be the first measure in building a foundation towards it. Nothing happens in politics in one fell swoop, it comes from a series of mixed bills where they try to pass multiple things at a time if not hide their true agenda within dogwhistle language. 


I'm sure you'd be delighted it if taxpayers paid for some whores multiple abortions. Anyway, close call NOTHING.

What???

Is that what you imagine abortion's all about, keeping whorehouses in business? 


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People are spending thousands on gas and settling for less. Money they don't have. With the state of things, women's rights isn't a priority for everyday people.

Lowering gas prices is better.

Lowering gas prices is a temporary solution, as the price will still be subject to supply and demand as a limited resource. By accepting gas in place of rights you're trading liberty for safety. 

Everything is temporary, including stability. Better to prolong it.

You can do is cheer and virtue signal woman's rights, but here's the thing. "YOU GET NOTHING DONE".

Then why are so men fearing the changes? 

What changes exactly are we talking about ? Is there some new revolution ?

You've at least seen many men being alarmist about men losing power and needing to take it back, right? 

Dude, in my 44 years, I never seen any real change. 

Really? None at all? 🤨

I was on the phone with my lady and I asked her. Women's rights or cheaper gas. She laughed and said cheaper gas. I said I'm talking to a homosexual online and he said women's rights, and she had to pull over to laugh it off. 

Okay so that's two women willing to sell out their rights for some cheap fuel, how many more you expecting to find? 

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lol no it's not women selling their right if they want cheaper gas.

Women have established rights.

What can't a woman do now ?

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The question is over protecting women's rights. 

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Every single day, there will be a woman violated. Women have it easier than men do.

I know this story, I watched the coverage, she joined a bowling club etc, but, it so happens, Top G knows about it too so I'll drop his take on it.

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