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Velma on HBO Max


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This trailer makes some bold verbal statements.

Check the dislike ratio below so far.

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Why do they set themselves up for failure ? Why ? I don't get it.

And whose agenda is it really ? I'm not particularly upset about Scooby Doo characters, but why ?

Maybe as I get older, the world will become a happier and more inclusive place. Sometimes I wonder, are they right to do stuff like this ? Except this time, they straight up take swings at the internet while trying to release a new Velma ? 

I think they are trying to start a race war. The typical left wing person will just nod along with whatever comes out, as they nod along as their freedoms are being taken away from them. Yeah they want a race war.

My friend daughter who is half black, but quite tanned will be playing as Velma this Halloween lol.  

I'm a communist now. Democracy is failing. 

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some pissy post ironic cunts or something. also yes, i don't like it because im racist and no im not gonna contribute to a race war. 

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Maybe as I get older, the world will become a happier and more inclusive place.
Maybe, maybe not.
 
Would you want the world to become a happier and more inclusive place at the cost of having to suck up some of your political views?
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I wonder if this will become an alternate costume for her in Multiversus. 

Otherwise just another person trying to re-race a classic, which never goes well outside of the problems of race, but rather the purity of the original canon. You can see the same stuff said when a black character is portrayed by a white person, making it less about the specifics of any one race and more about their attachment to the original material. 

If people were more original, they'd make new characters instead of spinning oldies into remixes no one asked for. 

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Maybe as I get older, the world will become a happier and more inclusive place.
Maybe, maybe not.
 
Would you want the world to become a happier and more inclusive place at the cost of having to suck up some of your political views?

 Which views in particular would that be ?

In this day and age straight men come last.

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I wonder if this will become an alternate costume for her in Multiversus. 

If I played that I'd use Black Velma to piss off my opponents.


Otherwise just another person trying to re-race a classic, which never goes well outside of the problems of race, but rather the purity of the original canon. You can see the same stuff said when a black character is portrayed by a white person, making it less about the specifics of any one race and more about their attachment to the original material. 

If people were more original, they'd make new characters instead of spinning oldies into remixes no one asked for. 

 In this world, race swapping a black character is political suicide, I don't recall that happening. 

It's not only white people complaining about the race swapping either.

They should indeed make original characters. Miles Morales Spider-Man is good cause he's not Peter, he's unique like a real person is.

Velma is older than I am, so she'll be quite famous over the years with every age group, this will be unpopular, not to nag.

 

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I wonder if this will become an alternate costume for her in Multiversus. 

If I played that I'd use Black Velma to piss off my opponents.

It'd cost IRL money to buy their 'Gleamium' currency, and their costume prices make no fucking sense. 

Otherwise just another person trying to re-race a classic, which never goes well outside of the problems of race, but rather the purity of the original canon. You can see the same stuff said when a black character is portrayed by a white person, making it less about the specifics of any one race and more about their attachment to the original material. 

If people were more original, they'd make new characters instead of spinning oldies into remixes no one asked for. 

 In this world, race swapping a black character is political suicide, I don't recall that happening. 

It was more common pre-2000, but you tend to see race substitutions have more room for debate when someone plays a historical figure. 

It's not only white people complaining about the race swapping either.

I in general find that it cheapens the idea of race when they, through the corporate filter, act like what they put on screen is only following a race quota rather than trying to tie in their racial identity. 

When Disney does it for example you still end up with a whitewashed product, and the consumer will see that uncanny valley even though the company for whatever reason seems to be missing the point. Now that Tokenism has become passé they've been trying different approaches. 

That the trailer even thought to call on the race substitution through a Jetson's reference shows they are even self-aware of the risk, but they did it anyway. It's a bold move but also one that works against the product, they are reminding their audience why they shouldn't potentially like the material this way.  

They should indeed make original characters. Miles Morales Spider-Man is good cause he's not Peter, he's unique like a real person is.

Agreed, they did a good job separating him.

Peter has gone through a lot of shit at this point too, dude's more grizzled, and I like that the writing allows for him to age. 

Velma is older than I am, so she'll be quite famous over the years with every age group, this will be unpopular, not to nag.

Scooby Doo has been victim of tons of reboots, and as each iteration pushes further they keep losing sight of who Velma was originally supposed to be. As the times march on people don't even really notice Daphne from her being outdated cliches, while the world has essentially normalized the role Velma used to play, but in that you lose Velma (and for that matter Daphne). 

I am not the biggest fan of Scooby but I still watched a lot of it growing up from it being 'what was on', and even as one who is not a fan I am recognizing the decrease in quality and original themes as they keep trying to reinvent the wheel. 

Honestly I think they should just leave Scooby alone, they have them meeting the WWE and shit now it's getting increasingly absurd. 

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