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my advice for Med about Chapo


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19:53 JesusistheKing: have you thought about maybe forming a relationship with yourself ? like falling in love with yourself

19:54 JesusistheKing: I think the concept of being self partnered could be helpful for you it is for me, because when we love ourselves we do not settle for significant others that are not there for us, or who tell us that we are bad/not good enough

19:55 JesusistheKing: I do not think chapo deserves your affection or money, personally because he is not responding to you in supportive ways
 

 

 

I would prefer that she get a good trauma and relationship therapist or even better an Internal Family Systems therapist,  but she does not seem interested rn so I am breaking my own rule about people struggling with mental illness should not be giving advice to other people struggling with mental illness,  and I did give her this advice and I am going to ask that other people on the forum maybe expand upon and contribute their experiences with learning to love themselves,  self- love  self- compassion and being self-partnered if any of you have anything to add

 

the reason why I am breaking my rule that I normally have is because she might not believe or understand that being in love with herself could even be possible for her,  and that makes me really sad because she is my friend  and my advice is coming from a place of benevolent compassion and I have examined myself and made sure that there are no ulterior motives behind giving this advice to her

 

a lot of times,  when people are struggling with mental illness they can give guidance and advice that can be very damaging to other people  especially if they took that advice  but I do not think that there is anything damaging about encouraging people to be compassionate with themselves and to love themselves and be self-partnered,  especially when the alternative is to beg someone who has a history of not being very supportive towards you to change their mind and suddenly become supportive  because begging has already shown itself to not be affective on the person that she wants it to be effective on

 

Med actually has the potential within her to fill herself up with everything that she is wanting Chapo to give her,  without even needing another person to give it to her  she could give it all to herself,  the feelings of being loved and compassionate with herself and unconditionally accepting herself  she could essentially be her own parent and lover  and this is who I am being for myself right now as part of my healing journey because I do not want another person to be my partner unless that person is going to add to my life instead of take away from it

 

and Chapo is basically telling Med that she is not good enough for him,  which that is his own opinion but not a fact,  at all,  it is just his personal choice to see her that way  and I think that instead of begging him to see her differently or like he used to or anything like that is a waste of time,  because she does not even need validation from him  she could be giving herself all of her own validation and with that comes so much freedom,  and you stop having to settle with trying to get approval and validation and acceptance from someone who does not want to see you as "good enough" for whatever reason to be a recipient of their own support and friendship or partnership and so on

 

 

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like essentially I am sad for Med because I know that she feels trapped depending on Chapo for validation when he refuses to give it to her,  but there is a way out  and I want her to see the way out and believe in it so I am trying to support and encourage her and show her that the way out really exists

 

 

last edit on 8/26/2022 8:17:04 PM
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Med is mentally ill, in her mind she thinks her behavior is acceptable. She will most likely ignoe you. But you are very disturbed well. 

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Ironically, Chapo has the best chance of fixing Med. She'll only learn the hard way. Though that situation is pretty hard, it isn't hard enough.

Though costly, for now Med will bang Chapo for a price every once in awhile. That's not half bad for the severely infatuated. Like crack to an addict. So she'll shamelessly simp over him while he treats her like dirt. And he kinda has to because he must make himself clear.

There's a hard lesson there for Chapo aswell. That is..... I can't think of it right now, but in the end, even if they ended up together or not, She's most likely going to get some type of revenge. It's easy to assume she would, considering how fragile she is. Waltz said it best when he said something along the lines of "all someone has to do is stumble in her path for her to go bitter".

On a side note. If I thought any of my beneficiaries would be so foolish, my death won't be their jackpot, so I'd assume her Father would be very disappointed in what he ended up funding for his own offspring. I imagine as he watches from the other side, he knows Chapo MUST break her for her own good.

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yeah well at least if that does end up being the case,  she will know there are other options for her than feeling stuck and broken and depressed and hopeless forever

 

 

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yeah well at least if that does end up being the case,  she will know there are other options for her than feeling stuck and broken and depressed and hopeless forever

 She's certainly stuck and broken, but not really depressed and she doesn't have any sense of hopelessness, whatsoever. She's very hopeful.

She's like a lizard running on impulse.

Med really blurrs the line when it comes to the qualities produced by being persistent, and when to move on. 

Maybe in the end we'll learn that the doormats, yes those people, did it the right way and stayed happy keeping those they have strong attachment to, even though the ones they could cut loose are nasty.

Sure wealth does spread wings and fly away, but so will this life. That's her strong hold, money for moments. If she runs out of money, then that's when that saga get's interesting. 

 

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I just want her to find lasting happiness sooner than later but maybe she does have to go through this lesson first

 

 

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Med's been stuck on this part of her lesson for years already.  I think nearly everyone has tried their hand at talking to Med about it, different strategies.  All pretty much to no avail.

Your heart might be in the right place, but it might actually be a lesson for you rather than her, about how to manage your reactions to lost causes. :)

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yeah true,  tbh it seems like a nightmare to be infatuated with a guy who treats you like you not wanted forever  so I get scared for her,  because I have a habit of becoming infatuated and then eventually moving on,  and then getting into new relationships and learning new lessons  (some have been equal partnerships and some have been me one sidedly being infatuated with someone)  but she is not reaching the point of moving on....  I want to like save her from the nightmare ?  but maybe to her it does not even feel or seem like a nightmare Idk

 

 

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