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the Old Testament Judaic God is horrible


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yikes  I finally had to face the truth and it broke my faith in Jesus lol  :/

 

 

last edit on 8/17/2022 5:53:35 PM
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For the sake of discussion rather than flooding the post with my own feelings on it, what things make Him so horrible to you now? 

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that he commanded Noah and his family after the flood against killing any other human being because they are all Image bearers,  but then he commanded his people later on in the Old Testament to go out and commit mass genocide against other nations

 

also  the fact that he created all humans and animals to be vegan before the fall,  but after the fall he would have had to either created or redesigned people and the carnivorous animals to be able to digest meat,  and also to be able to hunt and kill animals and that seems super wrong to encourage violence against animals if his original creation design was for people and animals to be vegan

 

It is these super huge contradictions that I keep coming across when reading passages from the Old Testament that have a violent bent that repulse me the most,  it is like stuff that I knew about when I was younger but now that I am an adult and actually studying it and looking into it,  like there is just nothing right or perfect or true seeming about these "changes of mind from God about what is right and perfect behavior" at all

 

 

last edit on 8/17/2022 6:39:32 PM
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Also whyyyyyyyyyyyy tf would humans who did not eat the forbidden fruit have to be guilty for decisions that they did not freewill make ?  like there is no personal responsibility in that allowed for

 

 

last edit on 8/17/2022 6:40:36 PM
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Also whyyyyyyyyyyyy tf would humans who did not eat the forbidden fruit have to be guilty for decisions that they did not freewill make ?  like there is no personal responsibility in that allowed for

I believe the phrase is 'the sins of the father'. 


‘The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, forgiving iniquity and transgression, but he will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, to the third and the fourth generation.’ - Numbers 14:18

You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, - Exodus 20:5


While the stories go on to say the son will not be punished in spirit for the sins of the father, they will be punishable in a worldly sense. 

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yeah but I do not agree with not being given a fair chance to not sin wtf

 

 

last edit on 8/17/2022 8:22:04 PM
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that he commanded Noah and his family after the flood against killing any other human being because they are all Image bearers,  but then he commanded his people later on in the Old Testament to go out and commit mass genocide against other nations

All of that is supposed to be fine over how life here has no value compared to life after people are resurrected and judged ala Rapture. 

Christianity aims towards derealization, telling people that what happens now does not matter beyond the prizes and punishments that come after: 

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It's not the only faith that pushes towards this sort of thing either. 

also  the fact that he created all humans and animals to be vegan before the fall,  but after the fall he would have had to either created or redesigned people and the carnivorous animals to be able to digest meat,  and also to be able to hunt and kill animals and that seems super wrong to encourage violence against animals if his original creation design was for people and animals to be vegan

How else would you resolve reproduction if nothing could die? Lilith was being reprimanded over this even before Adam and Eve were cast out. 

God had to do something to balance things out, death's one of the things that makes more sense to have within a system like this. I personally have more issue with his hereafter ideas than how the world turned out. 

It is these super huge contradictions that I keep coming across when reading passages from the Old Testament that have a violent bent that repulse me the most,  it is like stuff that I knew about when I was younger but now that I am an adult and actually studying it and looking into it,  like there is just nothing right or perfect or true seeming about these "changes of mind from God about what is right and perfect behavior" at all

It's all part of The Plan™. 

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last edit on 8/17/2022 8:28:44 PM
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