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Friedrich seems to be overly concerned about other people's gay relationships.

Closet gay himself? It's okay to come out of the closet.

Look, I'm not going to gossip. But I was really confused because I *swore* on my life that someone (male) told me that they were pansexual, and went on and on about the explicit sexual acts they enjoyed involving men LMAO then later on when I mentioned it in conversation they said, "I NEVER said that. I am not pansexual!" 

But I just kind of let it go because hey, people change their mind or they don't want a certain perception of them, they haven't become comfortable with that aspect of themselves or maybe they were completely sloshed when they said it and have zero recollection. 

I'm not sure what the recent uptick is in the interest in of the sexuality of the men of this forum but that's like a trending topic right now and people seem interested. Not sure why, because, to me it's like, neither here nor there. 

But, on this topic. Maybe it's happen stance, but, all of my closest guy friends have come out to me as bi, privately, but just don't want others to know and live their lives as "straight males" on the surface entirely. But they've all experimented and their minds have wandered far from that direction plenty of times. 

Male sexuality isn't something I really understand, as a woman. But I can say. It seems like to me, it's just as fluid as it can be for a lot of "straight" identifying women. I don't know what the statistic is but, a good number do seem to be open to experimentation and things like that. But it's simply out of like a basic desire or interest, a curiosity even at times but, it's very different from being labeled as bi or gay, as they don't really desire a relationship with a woman and the likelihood of them having one in the same way they *want to* with a man, is very slim. Especially given, their desire to be with a man long term or marry one etc is like, a prevailing force and becomes prioritized for them over their simple occasional desires and curiosities. 

Most people seem to fall into the "want their cake and eat it too" category, though it can be subject to change at any time. And I consider that sort of a different space to be in than the bisexual or pansexual space, or the straight or gay space. 

A lot of people like to debate about it on the internet, especially straight males, it seems like. "Are you gay, if you like a little on the side." sort of debate. And in my opinion, as someone who is LGBT, I would say, no. You're still straight because you desire a full time relationship with a woman or your significant other to be a woman OVER your desire to be with a dude "for funsies." You'll never marry a man or be in a long term committal relationship with a man. And, there is more to being a gay person, than just sex. And because you don't experience *all* of those things, you're just a straight person experimenting with sex. You don't fit the label as gay, what so ever. 

That's just my opinion. However. If you *want* the label as bi, you certainly can have it. But it would only be fair to explain your intentions and make that really clear with whoever you engage with on the same side of the fence, so they know, you're not really planning on getting attached, and likely aren't, capable of it. Because you don't experience any of that romantic bond and attraction that makes a relationship even possible. 

You might really admire someone, and appreciate and value them. You might like experimenting with them even, and enjoy your time together, enjoy a lot of aspects of them for whatever reason. You might feel really close or trusting, as friends. But you don't have any desires, for them or to be with them. And so for that reason, no, you're not gay. Lol I know, it's kind of confusing. I suppose. 

Because if you're straight, how could you know. And if you find this concept really confusing, that's another blatant sign you may be a straight person. Because to someone who is gay, they probably get what I'm saying right away and already knew it. 

But basically, all the experiences you have as a straight person, regarding your attraction to the opposite sex. How deeply meaninful it can be, all the drive you experience, all the physical touch, all the emotional experiences you have with this person and all the attachment and immeshment you can feel, the level or type of bond which you can experience that is so far different from friendship. That exact experience is what a gay person has for the same sex. If you don't experience what you can experience for a woman, for a man- and never have. You're not gay. lol

Because that is what being gay is, it is not just sex. I have to explain this to a lot of straight people who think they are bi and are essentially not, but are straight and want to experiment. There is more to sexual orientation, than just sex, it is a full fledged range of experiences that all regard attraction. 

If you are with a man, and you don't feel any desire to touch them or put your arm around them for exmaple, or cuddle them, etc. There is something *missing* there. That may be present when you are with a woman, it may be very subconscious and natural, but take note of it. That drive to do things like that, you don't have it when you are with a man. Then you are not gay. 

You're just not repulsed by the idea of sex with a man, but *not hating it* does not equate to, desiring a full fledged relationship with a man over *anything* in this world, and a prevailing desire to be with them in a sexual way, in a very intimate and attached meaningful way. 

It's not what you do, it's how you do it, and what it all means to you, how you experience it. Your favorite flavor of candy is banana. You put your coin in the candy dispenser, got out a blue raspberry. You ate the blue raspberry. Does it mean that banana is no longer you favorite flavor, because you ate a blue raspberry. No. 

Your favorite flavor is still banana. You are still a banana-favoring person, all the way. You just, did the action of eating a blue raspberry and didn't hate it. It was candy. It was enough. It was sugar. But it's not the same experience, you have, as when you finally get a banana flavored candy! And banana will always be your preference

Blanc said: 

Look, I'm not going to gossip. But I was really confused because I *swore* on my life that someone (male) told me that they were pansexual, and went on and on about the explicit sexual acts they enjoyed involving men LMAO then later on when I mentioned it in conversation they said, "I NEVER said that. I am not pansexual!" 

 

But I just kind of let it go because hey, people change their mind or they don't want a certain perception of them, they haven't become comfortable with that aspect of themselves or maybe they were completely sloshed when they said it and have zero recollection. 

 

I'm not sure what the recent uptick is in the interest in of the sexuality of the men of this forum but that's like a trending topic right now and people seem interested. Not sure why, because, to me it's like, neither here nor there. 

 

But, on this topic. Maybe it's happen stance, but, all of my closest guy friends have come out to me as bi, privately, but just don't want others to know and live their lives as "straight males" on the surface entirely. But they've all experimented and their minds have wandered far from that direction plenty of times. 

 

Male sexuality isn't something I really understand, as a woman. But I can say. It seems like to me, it's just as fluid as it can be for a lot of "straight" identifying women. I don't know what the statistic is but, a good number do seem to be open to experimentation and things like that. But it's simply out of like a basic desire or interest, a curiosity even at times but, it's very different from being labeled as bi or gay, as they don't really desire a relationship with a woman and the likelihood of them having one in the same way they *want to* with a man, is very slim. Especially given, their desire to be with a man long term or marry one etc is like, a prevailing force and becomes prioritized for them over their simple occasional desires and curiosities. 

 

Most people seem to fall into the "want their cake and eat it too" category, though it can be subject to change at any time. And I consider that sort of a different space to be in than the bisexual or pansexual space, or the straight or gay space. 

 

 

A lot of people like to debate about it on the internet, especially straight males, it seems like. "Are you gay, if you like a little on the side." sort of debate. And in my opinion, as someone who is LGBT, I would say, no. You're still straight because you desire a full time relationship with a woman or your significant other to be a woman OVER your desire to be with a dude "for funsies." You'll never marry a man or be in a long term committal relationship with a man. And, there is more to being a gay person, than just sex. And because you don't experience *all* of those things, you're just a straight person experimenting with sex. You don't fit the label as gay, what so ever. 

 

That's just my opinion. However. If you *want* the label as bi, you certainly can have it. But it would only be fair to explain your intentions and make that really clear with whoever you engage with on the same side of the fence, so they know, you're not really planning on getting attached, and likely aren't, capable of it. Because you don't experience any of that romantic bond and attraction that makes a relationship even possible. 

 

You might really admire someone, and appreciate and value them. You might like experimenting with them even, and enjoy your time together, enjoy a lot of aspects of them for whatever reason. You might feel really close or trusting, as friends. But you don't have any desires, for them or to be with them. And so for that reason, no, you're not gay. Lol I know, it's kind of confusing. I suppose. 

 

Because if you're straight, how could you know. And if you find this concept really confusing, that's another blatant sign you may be a straight person. Because to someone who is gay, they probably get what I'm saying right away and already knew it. 

 

But basically, all the experiences you have as a straight person, regarding your attraction to the opposite sex. How deeply meaninful it can be, all the drive you experience, all the physical touch, all the emotional experiences you have with this person and all the attachment and immeshment you can feel, the level or type of bond which you can experience that is so far different from friendship. That exact experience is what a gay person has for the same sex. If you don't experience what you can experience for a woman, for a man- and never have. You're not gay. lol

 

Because that is what being gay is, it is not just sex. I have to explain this to a lot of straight people who think they are bi and are essentially not, but are straight and want to experiment. There is more to sexual orientation, than just sex, it is a full fledged range of experiences that all regard attraction. 

 

If you are with a man, and you don't feel any desire to touch them or put your arm around them for exmaple, or cuddle them, etc. There is something *missing* there. That may be present when you are with a woman, it may be very subconscious and natural, but take note of it. That drive to do things like that, you don't have it when you are with a man. Then you are not gay. 

 

You're just not repulsed by the idea of sex with a man, but *not hating it* does not equate to, desiring a full fledged relationship with a man over *anything* in this world, and a prevailing desire to be with them in a sexual way, in a very intimate and attached meaningful way. 

 

It's not what you do, it's how you do it, and what it all means to you, how you experience it. Your favorite flavor of candy is banana. You put your coin in the candy dispenser, got out a blue raspberry. You ate the blue raspberry. Does it mean that banana is no longer you favorite flavor, because you ate a blue raspberry. No. 

 

Your favorite flavor is still banana. You are still a banana-favoring person, all the way. You just, did the action of eating a blue raspberry and didn't hate it. It was candy. It was enough. It was sugar. But it's not the same experience, you have, as when you finally get a banana flavored candy! And banana will always be your preference

 blanc, you always say your gay but your not. now a "straight" person being afraid to come out as bi or otherwise is one thing, but a bi motherfucker like you claiming to be gay is a whole ass level of STFU stop the lecture

Blanc said: 

Look, I'm not going to gossip. But I was really confused because I *swore* on my life that someone (male) told me that they were pansexual, and went on and on about the explicit sexual acts they enjoyed involving men LMAO then later on when I mentioned it in conversation they said, "I NEVER said that. I am not pansexual!" 

But I just kind of let it go because hey, people change their mind or they don't want a certain perception of them, they haven't become comfortable with that aspect of themselves or maybe they were completely sloshed when they said it and have zero recollection. 

Or maybe you imagined it? 

Turncoat said: 

Blanc said: 

Look, I'm not going to gossip. But I was really confused because I *swore* on my life that someone (male) told me that they were pansexual, and went on and on about the explicit sexual acts they enjoyed involving men LMAO then later on when I mentioned it in conversation they said, "I NEVER said that. I am not pansexual!" 

But I just kind of let it go because hey, people change their mind or they don't want a certain perception of them, they haven't become comfortable with that aspect of themselves or maybe they were completely sloshed when they said it and have zero recollection. 

Or maybe you imagined it? 

 maybe maybe not, at the end of the day i dont even care either way

I'm not bi, I'm gay. 

I've experimented with the idea of a guy, but just like I explained with the banana favoring person thing. I'm a banana favoring person. I'm gay. Just because you've had blue raspberry and you tolerated it, doesn't mean blue raspberry is your favorite flavor. Or that you can identify as a blue raspberry favoriting person. 

It's really rude that people try to put labels onto me that are not what *I* chose for myself, what I *know* about myself to be true. Men can experiment with men and still be straight. Gay women can experiment with men, and still identify as lesbian. 

I don't desire to marry a man, I desire to marry a woman. I don't desire anything about men period. That's what makes me gay. I can experience connection with a man by happen stance. But if it does happen, it's really rare. But I don't *seek* that out, because I don't have a desire for it innately. I don't want to touch, I don't want to hold hands, I'm actually nauseated by the idea, I don't want to kiss, and I don't want to be intimate in *any* sort of way, I have *zero* desire for it. I actually don't even want to *sleep* in the same *bed* as a man. 

It's not fair that I can have this experience and know this about myself, consistently for decades now. And, because I gave men a chance- because I was willing to give guys who *wanted* to be with me a fair shot- despite being completely clear, and coming forward to them- I am gay, I like women, are you open to the idea of me being with women, etc. I'm always really forward about it. But I gave men their fair shot. Because I wanted to *see* if it was possible for me to *change* but it didn't *change* okay, no matter how much I admire someone or have a connection with them. I'm not capable of the physical level or the physical experiences that a woman has with a man. 

I only have that experience with another woman. I am *missing* that. I don't know why, it's just how I am wired. So yeah, I'm literally gay. 

It took a long time for me to come to terms with that, and that is a natural process for a lot of people that they have to go through. And because you're not gay, strictly gay. Maybe that's not something you can understand? But that's basically what I was doing. I was testing myself. 

But it just never got anywhere. Just because I tried, doesn't mean that I am straight LMAO. I TRIED to be straight. I really wanted to be because, it would make my life so much easier in so many ways if I could just be happy that way. But I'm not fulfilled that way because it's not in my nature it's not what I'm geared for, it's not in my propensity to be straight. I don't *have* the capacity. I'm decent at pretending. Playing along. But it doesn't mean I enjoy it, desire it, seek it out, to the point I'd go out of my way to experience it again. 

So you can scream at me all you want, but you look really obtuse doing it because. You simply just don't understand. Like, you can't see it. But yeah. I would love to be straight, it would be really fun. I like spending my time with guys. I get a long great with guys, I really enjoy them? A lot. I am so happy to spend time together etc. But like.... that's as far as I can go. I can spend time together. 

But my sexual orientation is gay. It's really unfortunate but that's just how it is. It's something I have to fucking live with. 

Blanc said: 

I'm not bi, I'm gay. 

You've been into men though. 

I think it's less that you're Gay and more than Heterosexuality scares you on some level. You showcase the attraction but then you get all paranoid and junk, in ways I figure you'd also be paranoid with women if you were to actually date them instead of just fantasizing them. 

Nice. This is how I find out Blanc is back and of course it's 10 paragraphs