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Your behavior sets people off, not just me. Spatial, Feathers, Jim, everyone thinks you're dodgy and behave like a jackass when you feel wronged, going on these long silent protests thinking that's the appropriate way to deal with situations you both create and are too embarrassed to face, even when it's people that you've known for 5+ years. It doesn't produce the outcome you think it does.

 In my recent experiences with TC, he just resorts to lies while claiming I have bad memory. Without a doubt he wishes he performed like I did over the years so he'll spread bullshit 

He gave Fae the silent treatment for no reason, and when Lena went off on Faethers for saying she sent Crow peanuts, Lena went on about it for day's in multiple threads, while TC fanned the flames.

I'm familiar with people like TC, and I recognized his involvement in Lena attacking Faethers, while he could've easily told Lena the rumor came from Crow.

While we're watching TC pick up after the mess Crow left behind, it's obvious why he does that, and it's because he doesn't serve the truth, while the truth would only expose him.

 

 

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Your behavior sets people off, not just me. Spatial, Feathers, Jim, everyone thinks you're dodgy and behave like a jackass when you feel wronged, going on these long silent protests thinking that's the appropriate way to deal with situations you both create and are too embarrassed to face, even when it's people that you've known for 5+ years. It doesn't produce the outcome you think it does.

 In my recent experiences with TC, he just resorts to lies while claiming I have bad memory. Without a doubt he wishes he performed like I did over the years so he'll spread bullshit 

He gave Fae the silent treatment for no reason, and when Lena went off on Faethers for saying she sent Crow peanuts, Lena went on about it for day's in multiple threads, while TC fanned the flames.

I'm familiar with people like TC, and I recognized his involvement in Lena attacking Faethers, while he could've easily told Lena the rumor came from Crow.

While we're watching TC pick up after the mess Crow left behind, it's obvious why he does that, and it's because he doesn't serve the truth, while the truth would only expose him.

 

 

 Wrong.

He could have said it was crow that spread the rumor but it was on Fae for accusing me of something when she felt she had no hold in an argumen. Fae could have said it was Crow just as much but there was no need for her to accuse me of trying to kill Crow without verifying with me if i had or hadn't sent a package. 

She made the claim and I'm not going to infantilize her because she is a grown woman and TC is not responsible for her behavior or accusations towards me 

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Just let him think it's my fault, it's fine. 

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Lenalee said: 

Your behavior sets people off, not just me. Spatial, Feathers, Jim, everyone thinks you're dodgy and behave like a jackass when you feel wronged, going on these long silent protests thinking that's the appropriate way to deal with situations you both create and are too embarrassed to face, even when it's people that you've known for 5+ years. It doesn't produce the outcome you think it does.

 In my recent experiences with TC, he just resorts to lies while claiming I have bad memory. Without a doubt he wishes he performed like I did over the years so he'll spread bullshit 

He gave Fae the silent treatment for no reason, and when Lena went off on Faethers for saying she sent Crow peanuts, Lena went on about it for day's in multiple threads, while TC fanned the flames.

I'm familiar with people like TC, and I recognized his involvement in Lena attacking Faethers, while he could've easily told Lena the rumor came from Crow.

While we're watching TC pick up after the mess Crow left behind, it's obvious why he does that, and it's because he doesn't serve the truth, while the truth would only expose him.

 Wrong.

He could have said it was crow that spread the rumor but it was on Fae for accusing me of something when she felt she had no hold in an argumen.

He could have said it was Crow, but he didn't. Period.

That other thing you mentioned is the residual anger you felt by your perceived accuser, and not the source of the false accusation.

The reason why Fae said what she did, is because she listened to Crow.

 

Fae could have said it was Crow just as much but there was no need for her to accuse me of trying to kill Crow without verifying with me if i had or hadn't sent a package. 

I knew it was Crow since January.

I was also annoyed when I said TC has you.

 

She made the claim and I'm not going to infantilize her because she is a grown woman and TC is not responsible for her behavior or accusations towards me 

 If it makes you feel better about yourself, then turn a blind eye to the likelihood TC knew all along it was Crow's rumor. Because it is.

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Lenalee said: 

Your behavior sets people off, not just me. Spatial, Feathers, Jim, everyone thinks you're dodgy and behave like a jackass when you feel wronged, going on these long silent protests thinking that's the appropriate way to deal with situations you both create and are too embarrassed to face, even when it's people that you've known for 5+ years. It doesn't produce the outcome you think it does.

 In my recent experiences with TC, he just resorts to lies while claiming I have bad memory. Without a doubt he wishes he performed like I did over the years so he'll spread bullshit 

He gave Fae the silent treatment for no reason, and when Lena went off on Faethers for saying she sent Crow peanuts, Lena went on about it for day's in multiple threads, while TC fanned the flames.

I'm familiar with people like TC, and I recognized his involvement in Lena attacking Faethers, while he could've easily told Lena the rumor came from Crow.

While we're watching TC pick up after the mess Crow left behind, it's obvious why he does that, and it's because he doesn't serve the truth, while the truth would only expose him.

 Wrong.

He could have said it was crow that spread the rumor but it was on Fae for accusing me of something when she felt she had no hold in an argumen.

He could have said it was Crow, but he didn't. Period.

That other thing you mentioned is the residual anger you felt by your perceived accuser, and not the source of the false accusation.

The reason why Fae said what she did, is because she listened to Crow.

He didn't have to as he, like he has said, didn't think it was me and had no reason to believe Crow would say it was me. He didn't make the accusation, he could have cleared it up but ultimately it's not on him to clear up things that Fae starts. She's an adult and can handle it, Tony.

No i said i was angry that she would accuse me so blatantly false. She and i have recently spoken so that's been more or less fizzled out but i am fucking annoyed that you think i am not able to have feelings and emotions about things in the same capacity you would should someone accuse you of something.

You at the time could have also cleared it up and said It was Crow that had said i sent her peanuts back then.

Fae could have said it was Crow just as much but there was no need for her to accuse me of trying to kill Crow without verifying with me if i had or hadn't sent a package. 

I knew it was Crow since January.

I was also annoyed when I said TC has you.

It's fuckin rude. You don't treat me like a person Tony, it fucking sucks.

She made the claim and I'm not going to infantilize her because she is a grown woman and TC is not responsible for her behavior or accusations towards me 

 If it makes you feel better about yourself, then turn a blind eye to the likelihood TC knew all along it was Crow's rumor. Because it is.

 You also knew...??? That has nothing to do with the fact that Fae made the accusation and is responsible for things she says without verifying...

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

Your behavior sets people off, not just me. Spatial, Feathers, Jim, everyone thinks you're dodgy and behave like a jackass when you feel wronged, going on these long silent protests thinking that's the appropriate way to deal with situations you both create and are too embarrassed to face, even when it's people that you've known for 5+ years. It doesn't produce the outcome you think it does.

 In my recent experiences with TC, he just resorts to lies while claiming I have bad memory. Without a doubt he wishes he performed like I did over the years so he'll spread bullshit 

He gave Fae the silent treatment for no reason, and when Lena went off on Faethers for saying she sent Crow peanuts, Lena went on about it for day's in multiple threads, while TC fanned the flames.

I'm familiar with people like TC, and I recognized his involvement in Lena attacking Faethers, while he could've easily told Lena the rumor came from Crow.

While we're watching TC pick up after the mess Crow left behind, it's obvious why he does that, and it's because he doesn't serve the truth, while the truth would only expose him.

 Wrong.

He could have said it was crow that spread the rumor but it was on Fae for accusing me of something when she felt she had no hold in an argumen.

He could have said it was Crow, but he didn't. Period.

That other thing you mentioned is the residual anger you felt by your perceived accuser, and not the source of the false accusation.

The reason why Fae said what she did, is because she listened to Crow.

He didn't have to as he, like he has said, didn't think it was me and had no reason to believe Crow would say it was me. He didn't make the accusation, he could have cleared it up but ultimately it's not on him to clear up things that Fae starts. She's an adult and can handle it, Tony.

Yes he could have cleared it up but he didn't. Instead he was throwing logs into the fire. Which is my point.

Now you can say it's not up to him to clear it up, but let it be known, he's had you temperamental acting out certain ways over bullshit before.

The very first thing you brought up in the Crow thread is this, TC said he never thought it was you, and that surely was the case since him and Crow decided to game some of you.

Now we see TC picking up after Crow, most likely to ensure he doesn't take any heat for being an accessory to these manipulation tactics.

 

No i said i was angry that she would accuse me so blatantly false. She and i have recently spoken so that's been more or less fizzled out but i am fucking annoyed that you think i am not able to have feelings and emotions about things in the same capacity you would should someone accuse you of something.

You at the time could have also cleared it up and said It was Crow that had said i sent her peanuts back then.

At the time I couldn't have cleared it up. It was after the action, when Fae decided to leave SC she told me about Crow, and she even asked me not to say anything to anyone because she never wanted to get caught in anymore drama. She especially doesn't want Crow going after her. 

 

Fae could have said it was Crow just as much but there was no need for her to accuse me of trying to kill Crow without verifying with me if i had or hadn't sent a package. 

I knew it was Crow since January.

I was also annoyed when I said TC has you.

It's fuckin rude. You don't treat me like a person Tony, it fucking sucks.

I treat you better than TC does. He's ignoring fae for no reason, maybe he just hates her who knows, like many things in his life, the answer will probably shame him. Then when you go after Fae for days in multiple threads, and TC is there on your shoulder bringing up bullshit to fuel your rage against someone he totally ignores, I'll say yes, TC has you.

It's what he does. He tells lies.

Every now and then I have some characters come after me over what TC has them believe, last time I had to calmly school Outro for going all SJW on me after being accused of being a malignant narcissist woman hater.

 

She made the claim and I'm not going to infantilize her because she is a grown woman and TC is not responsible for her behavior or accusations towards me 

 If it makes you feel better about yourself, then turn a blind eye to the likelihood TC knew all along it was Crow's rumor. Because it is.

 You also knew...??? That has nothing to do with the fact that Fae made the accusation and is responsible for things she says without verifying...

 Yes I knew, but I learned about it after the heat of the moment, and I was asked not to bring it up. That being said, yes I violated Fae's wishes not to bring it up and I did that, until, Crow's reputation started taking a turn.

I did notify fae when I spilled the beans about it, she wasn't too impressed, but I think it had to be done given the circumstances. 

What I knew in the heat of the moment, TC was behind there somewhere.

In conclusion we can say TC knew about it, but it wasn't his responsibility to shed any light on the matter. Last January I believe he was still getting cucked by Crow, so why would he even entertain the truth in the matter. 

Who even knew about the peanut incident with Crow ? Hardly anyone, and it really doesn't make sense for Fae to out of the blue accuse some random SC member of doing it, while her hater ( TC ) is all for Fae being accused as a lying Bitch.

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Lenalee said: 
 

He could have said it was Crow, but he didn't. Period.

That other thing you mentioned is the residual anger you felt by your perceived accuser, and not the source of the false accusation.

The reason why Fae said what she did, is because she listened to Crow.

He didn't have to as he, like he has said, didn't think it was me and had no reason to believe Crow would say it was me. He didn't make the accusation, he could have cleared it up but ultimately it's not on him to clear up things that Fae starts. She's an adult and can handle it, Tony.

Yes he could have cleared it up but he didn't. Instead he was throwing logs into the fire. Which is my point.

Now you can say it's not up to him to clear it up, but let it be known, he's had you temperamental acting out certain ways over bullshit before.

You're not understanding what I'm saying.

Like he has said: He didn't think it was me and had no reason to believe it was me and therefore had no reason to believe Crow would say it was me to Fae, who had suddenly started accusing me of trying to kill a crow out of nowhere in a thread where we were talking about her islamophobia. 

As far as we both knew Fae had made it up, and it's still not on him to do anything to fix it because it should have been Fae to say "Crow told me you tried to kill her via peanut package." As she's the one that made the accusation to me.

Stop trying to minimalize and infantilize her involvement in things. She's an adult not a child. She had already admitted to lying one in the thread about talking to crow.

The very first thing you brought up in the Crow thread is this, TC said he never thought it was you, and that surely was the case since him and Crow decided to game some of you.

Now we see TC picking up after Crow, most likely to ensure he doesn't take any heat for being an accessory to these manipulation tactics.

I literally found out recently that it was Crow spreading rumors about me sending her that package. TC also explains his thoughts and how he doesn't believe Crow would do that and still believes it wasn't her. 

STILL, NOT ON HIM TO CLEAR UP WHAT FAE ACCUSED SOMEONE ELSE OF DOING. 

Would it have been great if he did? Sure but she's the one that made the accusation without asking hey Lena did you really...

No i said i was angry that she would accuse me so blatantly false. She and i have recently spoken so that's been more or less fizzled out but i am fucking annoyed that you think i am not able to have feelings and emotions about things in the same capacity you would should someone accuse you of something.

You at the time could have also cleared it up and said It was Crow that had said i sent her peanuts back then.

At the time I couldn't have cleared it up. It was after the action, when Fae decided to leave SC she told me about Crow, and she even asked me not to say anything to anyone because she never wanted to get caught in anymore drama. She especially doesn't want Crow going after her. 

So you're saying Fae could have cleared it up and didn't, she chose to be vague and make it look like she came to that conclusion on her own. Thanks

Fae could have said it was Crow just as much but there was no need for her to accuse me of trying to kill Crow without verifying with me if i had or hadn't sent a package. 

I knew it was Crow since January.

I was also annoyed when I said TC has you.

It's fuckin rude. You don't treat me like a person Tony, it fucking sucks.

I treat you better than TC does. He's ignoring fae for no reason, maybe he just hates her who knows, like many things in his life, the answer will probably shame him. Then when you go after Fae for days in multiple threads, and TC is there on your shoulder bringing up bullshit to fuel your rage against someone he totally ignores, I'll say yes, TC has you.

TC and i aren't even friends there isn't any expectation for him to treat me well, YOU HOWEVER HAVE A SEXIST IDEAS ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS.

From infantilizing Fae and thinking her not capable of things to assuming I'm an emotional marionette and TC controls my strings. 

Just like you have gone no contact at times with other so can TC. People are allowed to ignore others without explanation especially when they aren't friends. He doesn't owe someone that isn't his friend closure. 

I went after her for days because she refused to elaborate on something SHE ACCUSED ME OFF. SHE SAID I TRIED TO KILL SOMEONE YOU FUCKING FUCK.

It's what he does. He tells lies.

Every now and then I have some characters come after me over what TC has them believe, last time I had to calmly school Outro for going all SJW on me after being accused of being a malignant narcissist woman hater.

Thats not TCs doing. You come off as sexist and narcissistic at times. Outro gave his opinion and you decide they could have that opinion on their own, it seems everyone here is manipulated by TC. 

She made the claim and I'm not going to infantilize her because she is a grown woman and TC is not responsible for her behavior or accusations towards me 

 If it makes you feel better about yourself, then turn a blind eye to the likelihood TC knew all along it was Crow's rumor. Because it is.

 You also knew...??? That has nothing to do with the fact that Fae made the accusation and is responsible for things she says without verifying...

 Yes I knew, but I learned about it after the heat of the moment, and I was asked not to bring it up. That being said, yes I violated Fae's wishes not to bring it up and I did that, until, Crow's reputation started taking a turn.

I did notify fae when I spilled the beans about it, she wasn't too impressed, but I think it had to be done given the circumstances. 

What I knew in the heat of the moment, TC was behind there somewhere.

In conclusion we can say TC knew about it, but it wasn't his responsibility to shed any light on the matter. Last January I believe he was still getting cucked by Crow, so why would he even entertain the truth in the matter. 

Who even knew about the peanut incident with Crow ? Hardly anyone, and it really doesn't make sense for Fae to out of the blue accuse some random SC member of doing it, while her hater ( TC ) is all for Fae being accused as a lying Bitch.

 So you would have never said a thing until i made a thread about things she had done. Nice to know Tony thanks. Even a few days ago Fae told me about it and it's not the same answer you've given me. So now you and i have different stories from Fae, see how that's confusing?

Do you understand how Fae says one thing and then claims something else to a different person? 

YES IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR HER OUT OF THE BLUE TO ACCUSE ME DOES IT TONY. SHE ONLY DID IT WHEN I ASKED ABOUT HER ISLAMOPHOBIA

 

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Look, you clearly don't want to tell me what I did that wronged you so much. That's fine. At least I tried.

Your behavior sets people off, not just me. Spatial, Feathers, Jim, everyone thinks you're dodgy and behave like a jackass when you feel wronged, going on these long silent protests thinking that's the appropriate way to deal with situations you both create and are too embarrassed to face, even when it's people that you've known for 5+ years. It doesn't produce the outcome you think it does.

 omg this is spot on lol

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I understood what you've said. TC says he doesn't think you did it, and says he doesn't think Crow said that to Fae. 

I say bullshit on that 2nd part. No problem.

Personally it never crossed my mind if Fae made it up. If she did that would be very random. I don't think you even knew Crow's address. Simply denying the accusation would've been sufficient.

I asked Fae why doesn't she just say Crow told her that, and she pretty much said she doesn't want anymore drama.

She asked that I don't mention it to anyone, but given the circumstance, I ended up breaking Fae's trust. I also never had enough to present anything as factual, and I'm pretty sure if I randomly approached you with this information, it would've gotten a bit messy, because again, I couldn't confirm or deny anything. 

Anyway it wasn't worth it. Now if you'll Excuse me I'm going to gaze at my magnificent self in the mirror and think sexist things, like why all of the transsexuals are only dominating girly sports.

 

 

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Hawk said: 

I understood what you've said. TC says he doesn't think you did it, and says he doesn't think Crow said that to Fae. 

I say bullshit on that 2nd part. No problem.

Personally it never crossed my mind if Fae made it up. If she did that would be very random. I don't think you even knew Crow's address. Simply denying the accusation would've been sufficient.

I asked Fae why doesn't she just say Crow told her that, and she pretty much said she doesn't want anymore drama.

She asked that I don't mention it to anyone, but given the circumstance, I ended up breaking Fae's trust. I also never had enough to present anything as factual, and I'm pretty sure if I randomly approached you with this information, it would've gotten a bit messy, because again, I couldn't confirm or deny anything. 

Anyway it wasn't worth it. Now if you'll Excuse me I'm going to gaze at my magnificent self in the mirror and think sexist things, like why all of the transsexuals are only dominating girly sports.

 I think you need to talk to Fae again cos just recently she's said something different.

As for trans i feel like you'd enjoy bullying the tumblr trans

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