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Golden_Eagle said: 

What I wrote is the undeniable truth.

So is this more of the same "The LGBTQ will just let them do anything" clown world rhetoric? 

 No it isn't.

So just to be clear here, are you saying that from not wanting to be associated with it, or over not knowing the material? 

You have praised some of the clown world fears material when it was posted here, even used it as a platform to get your own ideas off the ground over it's room to inspire that. I questioned if you felt like I might be baiting traps here over my guess that you don't remember what it's about by name in spite of carrying some of it's themes into discussions. 

Seperatism isn't a healthy practice for any species.

It is for the ones that leave the diseased colony... 

If the grid went out and everything and everyone stopped working. You'll see separatism at it's finest while the population declines into a new stoneage.

We'd still have history and rich people, we wouldn't go full blown Book of Eli. 

Without electricity we'd drop like flies. People defending their gardens with weapons from the next door neighbors. Fresh water ? Good luck.

They'd have the resources to clean the dirtied water, use firearms they'd stockpiled in case something like this happens, a store of food in a bunker of some sort, backup generators they could pay a servant to handcrank for them if not using something like Water Wheels... 

For us to 'drop like flies' we'd need to first eat the rich. 

History wouldn't save us and money would become meaningless. No delivery no service no gas, e everything shut down.

The money itself yeah, it'd just be paper, but what they stockpiled with that money would become the gold standard that would let them re-establish civilization from what's left. 

Hurricane Katrina times a million.

On topic, The Lord isn't in favor of division. He loses his flock that way.

Their faith must not be very strong if that's all it takes. 

 That's all it takes.

Seems like a design flaw in God's plan if division is all it takes, which is extra strange when he should have seen it coming. 

It gives some fun context to the following quote at least when you consider how many denominations the religion has split into: “Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!” - Anton LaVey, The Satanic Bible

If the power stops everything will cease. Our refrigerators will fail. Ice sold out, natural gas soon gone, gas pumps not moving, no work, vehicles soon done, delivery service not happening, grocery stores cleared, money transactions not happening, running water soon gone, telecommunications, landline soon gone.

Winter time ? People will freeze in their homes. Famine for sure. Home invasions. We will drink the rain and eat leaves and hunt raccoons by the billions, the animals will suffer and go extinct. 


Technology is to us, what nectar is to the bee. We cannot survive in these numbers without electricity.  

Yeah, but you act like people with the means wouldn't just rebuild these things with the resources they've stockpiled. 

When a demand like that is created, it's legit a power vaccum, as whoever ends up setting up infrastructure first will end up with a huge ahead start over other settlements. 

Turncoat said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

What I wrote is the undeniable truth.

So is this more of the same "The LGBTQ will just let them do anything" clown world rhetoric? 

 No it isn't.

So just to be clear here, are you saying that from not wanting to be associated with it, or over not knowing the material? 

You have praised some of the clown world fears material when it was posted here, even used it as a platform to get your own ideas off the ground over it's room to inspire that. I questioned if you felt like I might be baiting traps here over my guess that you don't remember what it's about by name in spite of carrying some of it's themes into discussions. 

I don't even know what clown world fears material is. Can you give an example ?

I'm not a fan of transgender or alternate genders. I don't see myself praising ridicule of them.

What I wrote:

LGBTQ are seperatists with a more radical approach when it comes to others being okay with their sexual preferences, while no one really cares what they intend to do.

Seperatism isn't a healthy practice for any species.

Does it seem like I'm making fun of the LGBTQ ?

Seperatism isn't a healthy practice for any species.

It is for the ones that leave the diseased colony... 

If the grid went out and everything and everyone stopped working. You'll see separatism at it's finest while the population declines into a new stoneage.

We'd still have history and rich people, we wouldn't go full blown Book of Eli. 

Without electricity we'd drop like flies. People defending their gardens with weapons from the next door neighbors. Fresh water ? Good luck.

They'd have the resources to clean the dirtied water, use firearms they'd stockpiled in case something like this happens, a store of food in a bunker of some sort, backup generators they could pay a servant to handcrank for them if not using something like Water Wheels... 

For us to 'drop like flies' we'd need to first eat the rich. 

My claim is that we cannot survive in these numbers without our technology, I never said we'd totally get wiped out, just the majority of us.

If you know where a fortified base is without vast resources to survive this, then feel free to invade their space.

History wouldn't save us and money would become meaningless. No delivery no service no gas, e everything shut down.

The money itself yeah, it'd just be paper, but what they stockpiled with that money would become the gold standard that would let them re-establish civilization from what's left. 

Still we cannot survive in these numbers without our technology. Our survival depends on people working and maintaining current.

Hurricane Katrina times a million.

On topic, The Lord isn't in favor of division. He loses his flock that way.

Their faith must not be very strong if that's all it takes. 

 That's all it takes.

Seems like a design flaw in God's plan if division is all it takes, which is extra strange when he should have seen it coming. 

That's your opinion.

None of us has done better than God.

It gives some fun context to the following quote at least when you consider how many denominations the religion has split into: “Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!” - Anton LaVey, The Satanic Bible

If the power stops everything will cease. Our refrigerators will fail. Ice sold out, natural gas soon gone, gas pumps not moving, no work, vehicles soon done, delivery service not happening, grocery stores cleared, money transactions not happening, running water soon gone, telecommunications, landline soon gone.

Winter time ? People will freeze in their homes. Famine for sure. Home invasions. We will drink the rain and eat leaves and hunt raccoons by the billions, the animals will suffer and go extinct. 


Technology is to us, what nectar is to the bee. We cannot survive in these numbers without electricity.  

Yeah, but you act like people with the means wouldn't just rebuild these things with the resources they've stockpiled. 

When a demand like that is created, it's legit a power vaccum, as whoever ends up setting up infrastructure first will end up with a huge ahead start over other settlements. 

 Once again as written....

"We cannot survive in these numbers without electricity."

You're dunce. Remove yourself from my presence. 

Golden_Eagle said: 

Turncoat said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

What I wrote is the undeniable truth.

So is this more of the same "The LGBTQ will just let them do anything" clown world rhetoric? 

 No it isn't.

So just to be clear here, are you saying that from not wanting to be associated with it, or over not knowing the material? 

You have praised some of the clown world fears material when it was posted here, even used it as a platform to get your own ideas off the ground over it's room to inspire that. I questioned if you felt like I might be baiting traps here over my guess that you don't remember what it's about by name in spite of carrying some of it's themes into discussions. 

I don't even know what clown world fears material is. Can you give an example ?

Sure yeah. They were from as far back as when Syst was still here going on about fasc-wave and Alice was being alarmist over it still, and attempting to Youtube it now is showing the word 'clown' to have buried the older stuff. Here's the original topic from 2019 though. 

Here's two of the video links that were posted within, looks like a lot of them got taken down, almost all of them over copyright claims: 

 

Seperatism isn't a healthy practice for any species.

It is for the ones that leave the diseased colony... 

If the grid went out and everything and everyone stopped working. You'll see separatism at it's finest while the population declines into a new stoneage.

We'd still have history and rich people, we wouldn't go full blown Book of Eli. 

Without electricity we'd drop like flies. People defending their gardens with weapons from the next door neighbors. Fresh water ? Good luck.

They'd have the resources to clean the dirtied water, use firearms they'd stockpiled in case something like this happens, a store of food in a bunker of some sort, backup generators they could pay a servant to handcrank for them if not using something like Water Wheels... 

For us to 'drop like flies' we'd need to first eat the rich. 

My claim is that we cannot survive in these numbers without our technology, I never said we'd totally get wiped out, just the majority of us.

If you know where a fortified base is without vast resources to survive this, then feel free to invade their space.

I believe you said: "If the grid went out and everything and everyone stopped working. You'll see separatism at it's finest while the population declines into a new stoneage."

Admittedly I missed the 'and everyone stopped working', for that to be sustainable we'd have to go full blown Wall-E, but how would something like that even happen short of that weird virus from the Firefly movie 'Serenity', a gas that effectively made people lose the will to even get out of bed in the morning or out of their chairs until they literally died? 

What would demotivate people enough to not do what they have to to eat? 

History wouldn't save us and money would become meaningless. No delivery no service no gas, e everything shut down.

The money itself yeah, it'd just be paper, but what they stockpiled with that money would become the gold standard that would let them re-establish civilization from what's left. 

Still we cannot survive in these numbers without our technology. Our survival depends on people working and maintaining current.

Without it? Yeah, that'd be tough. In the hypothetical you posed though, they would not be without it because of our history and the resources stockpiled by the rich and paranoid. 

You can bet people with the means would have an edge in seeing Pandemonium coming and would prepare for it in ways that'd let them profit immensely. The Rich Get Richer and the demands would be higher than ever, they could probably even go as far as to reinstate slavery. 

Hurricane Katrina times a million.

On topic, The Lord isn't in favor of division. He loses his flock that way.

Their faith must not be very strong if that's all it takes. 

 That's all it takes.

Seems like a design flaw in God's plan if division is all it takes, which is extra strange when he should have seen it coming. 

That's your opinion.

None of us has done better than God.

That's like saying no horse has done as well as a human, it's a nonstatement that has nothing to do with His capacity for mistakes in spite of the literature saying He does not make mistakes. 

If the power stops everything will cease. Our refrigerators will fail. Ice sold out, natural gas soon gone, gas pumps not moving, no work, vehicles soon done, delivery service not happening, grocery stores cleared, money transactions not happening, running water soon gone, telecommunications, landline soon gone.

Winter time ? People will freeze in their homes. Famine for sure. Home invasions. We will drink the rain and eat leaves and hunt raccoons by the billions, the animals will suffer and go extinct. 


Technology is to us, what nectar is to the bee. We cannot survive in these numbers without electricity.  

Yeah, but you act like people with the means wouldn't just rebuild these things with the resources they've stockpiled. 

When a demand like that is created, it's legit a power vaccum, as whoever ends up setting up infrastructure first will end up with a huge ahead start over other settlements. 

 Once again as written....

"We cannot survive in these numbers without electricity."

I'm saying it wouldn't take much to get the lights back on. 

You're dunce. Remove yourself from my presence. 

I'm not even attacking you. 

Turncoat said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

Turncoat said: 

 

I don't even know what clown world fears material is. Can you give an example ?

Sure yeah. They were from as far back as when Syst was still here going on about fasc-wave and Alice was being alarmist over it still, and attempting to Youtube it now is showing the word 'clown' to have buried the older stuff. Here's the original topic from 2019 though. 

Here's two of the video links that were posted within, looks like a lot of them got taken down, almost all of them over copyright claims: 

Okay so you say I was inspired by this clown world and used it as inspiration to get my ideas off the ground ? 

What ideas exactly ?

See I have to ask.

 

They'd have the resources to clean the dirtied water, use firearms they'd stockpiled in case something like this happens, a store of food in a bunker of some sort, backup generators they could pay a servant to handcrank for them if not using something like Water Wheels... 

For us to 'drop like flies' we'd need to first eat the rich. 

My claim is that we cannot survive in these numbers without our technology, I never said we'd totally get wiped out, just the majority of us.

If you know where a fortified base is without vast resources to survive this, then feel free to invade their space.

I believe you said: "If the grid went out and everything and everyone stopped working. You'll see separatism at it's finest while the population declines into a new stoneage."

Admittedly I missed the 'and everyone stopped working', for that to be sustainable we'd have to go full blown Wall-E, but how would something like that even happen short of that weird virus from the Firefly movie 'Serenity', a gas that effectively made people lose the will to even get out of bed in the morning or out of their chairs until they literally died? 

You attack me everyday then when you decide to be nice there's no room for error, I will push back.

Yes, no one will be able to work, we are so reliant on our technology. Credit cards will be a bust, cashing out from the bank won't be possible, plus if everyone pulled from the bank things will get real ugly. Schools out, constructions out, no public transportation, street lights will fail causing gridlock. The list goes on, it will be an emergency. Police, firetruck and ambulance won't be able to make it.

What would demotivate people enough to not do what they have to to eat? 

Oh eventually they will do what they have to in order to eat, when everyone is starving, but what I wrote above.

Simply put they cannot get to work, and when they get to work their work can't function. They rely on other businesses and customers, dude it's done.

There was a big blackout in the East Coast of Canada and the US in 2003. For some of us it lasted 3 days. It's not the same as if a block goes out, it's the whole place. People running around like ants.

https://sociopathcommunity.com/Forum/Topic/1388/1/blackout-#post11373

Link on top is a post I made about it. Down below is a revisitation of the event in Toronto. People were stuck downtown in the pitch black.

When I tell you it was black, all light pollution was gone and we saw outer space the way it was meant to be seen in HD. The first day was chaos, cars lined up down the street Ice sold out, everyone was BBQing Some of us were out for 3 days or more. Some of this footage is within the first few hours of when it began

Toronto handled it well, but New York had instant riots.

As fun as it was, it couldn't go on.

History wouldn't save us and money would become meaningless. No delivery no service no gas, e everything shut down.

The money itself yeah, it'd just be paper, but what they stockpiled with that money would become the gold standard that would let them re-establish civilization from what's left. 

Still we cannot survive in these numbers without our technology. Our survival depends on people working and maintaining current.

Without it? Yeah, that'd be tough. In the hypothetical you posed though, they would not be without it because of our history and the resources stockpiled by the rich and paranoid. 

What resources ? We won't have access to resources, we won't even be able to pump gas, whatever the prepared have, they won't have for everyone. The rich also won't outnumber the masses who actually have emergency rations and other supplies and goods.

You can bet people with the means would have an edge in seeing Pandemonium coming and would prepare for it in ways that'd let them profit immensely. The Rich Get Richer and the demands would be higher than ever, they could probably even go as far as to reinstate slavery. 

Martial law, people will emergency supplies. Dandy. But there are billions of us.

It's been said that a DNA strand is so complex, it would take 50 years to write if someone spent 8 hours a day coding it. God would be the prime creator of all things, including space, which is unified with time.

We never made anything as advanced as a flea. From out current tech, all the way back to the first computers, we can't hold a candle to it. 

 Once again as written....

"We cannot survive in these numbers without electricity."

I'm saying it wouldn't take much to get the lights back on. 

Science knows this, but Solar storms can fry our grid, it will then take Geez, too long to put it back up.

Do your own research.

You're dunce. Remove yourself from my presence. 

I'm not even attacking you. 

But you did.

Golden_Eagle said: 

Turncoat said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

Turncoat said: 

I don't even know what clown world fears material is. Can you give an example ?

Sure yeah. They were from as far back as when Syst was still here going on about fasc-wave and Alice was being alarmist over it still, and attempting to Youtube it now is showing the word 'clown' to have buried the older stuff. Here's the original topic from 2019 though. 

Here's two of the video links that were posted within, looks like a lot of them got taken down, almost all of them over copyright claims: 

Okay so you say I was inspired by this clown world and used it as inspiration to get my ideas off the ground ? 

What ideas exactly ?

You will often refer to the degeneration of culture through similar arguments to those you'd find from clown world media types. 

Seriously dude this isn't some kind of sting operation, I'm just asking relative to one set of media how closely you align towards it from having seen similarities. 

See I have to ask.

You say that like it's not normal to ask questions, what's with that? 

They'd have the resources to clean the dirtied water, use firearms they'd stockpiled in case something like this happens, a store of food in a bunker of some sort, backup generators they could pay a servant to handcrank for them if not using something like Water Wheels... 

For us to 'drop like flies' we'd need to first eat the rich. 

My claim is that we cannot survive in these numbers without our technology, I never said we'd totally get wiped out, just the majority of us.

If you know where a fortified base is without vast resources to survive this, then feel free to invade their space.

I believe you said: "If the grid went out and everything and everyone stopped working. You'll see separatism at it's finest while the population declines into a new stoneage."

Admittedly I missed the 'and everyone stopped working', for that to be sustainable we'd have to go full blown Wall-E, but how would something like that even happen short of that weird virus from the Firefly movie 'Serenity', a gas that effectively made people lose the will to even get out of bed in the morning or out of their chairs until they literally died? 

You attack me everyday then when you decide to be nice there's no room for error, I will push back.

You see a lot of things as attacks that aren't, then you escalate and I realize that I have to dial it back to not hurt your feelings. You're sensitive, and I'm trying to adapt to that so that you don't keep sperging and feeling like you have to start dropping people's names to feel secure in yourself. 

Yes, this is me dialing it back for you. It's a work in progress and I am still trying to sympathize for your shortcomings in a way that will let us talk. I will remain honest but you still give me no choice but to be less-than raw when you've shown over and over that you're too weak to handle it. 

To be honest I'd place it more as you sitting there, wary and ready, for when an attack will happen. You anticipate it to such a degree that even things not meant to insult you are taken as such. Do you see how you preclude a lot of situations without otherwise looking at the entire picture this way? 

Yes, no one will be able to work, we are so reliant on our technology.

We would still have the means to build the things that build the things that would bring us back to that state, unless you can somehow account for both paper records and memorization. 

A technological blackout would not entirely end our record keeping, there are people who worry about that enough to convert a surprising amount into physical records, and it's on the backs of the paranoid and the resourceful that humanity will always end up rebuilding itself. 

We cannot be stopped short of extinction, we've come too far when we compare it to the rest of what's on Earth. 

What would demotivate people enough to not do what they have to to eat? 

Oh eventually they will do what they have to in order to eat, when everyone is starving, but what I wrote above.

Simply put they cannot get to work, and when they get to work their work can't function. They rely on other businesses and customers, dude it's done.

The way it used to be would be done, but not what it would become. Do you really not see an increase in small business interests at the outskirts of more established super-settlements being made by the over-prepared and wealthy? Where do you think all the knowledge and stockpiled resources would go? 

We'd still have our own feet, and in time we'd get to riding horses again or something to that effect. We'd even still have bicycles and skateboards, we wouldn't be without a means of locomotion for whatever downtime there is until everything's fixed. Even beyond this, business would become more local, likely following practices akin to that of a Farmer's Market until vehicles are re-established. 

The biggest problem for the US at least would be the obsolescence of our freeways. The existence of those would likely influence what the US would have to become to function again in the distant future, meaning they'd have to resume automobile use through electric batteries once they've resumed power if they are to gather from outside of where they already are. Either that or we'd have to destroy them to clear the lands for agricultural needs, but destroying a freeway probably isn't easy to do without fuel for construction equipment. 

You underestimate how resourceful people are, even with our reliance on technology, or at the very least you underestimate those with both wealth and cunning. It's that very same reliance that would be why people would be as sheep to the corporate shepherds once such a problem occurred, and would be why people could end up selling out their own humanity for mere survival. 

There was a big blackout in the East Coast of Canada and the US in 2003. For some of us it lasted 3 days. It's not the same as if a block goes out, it's the whole place. People running around like ants.

https://sociopathcommunity.com/Forum/Topic/1388/1/blackout-#post11373

Link on top is a post I made about it. Down below is a revisitation of the event in Toronto. People were stuck downtown in the pitch black.

When I tell you it was black, all light pollution was gone and we saw outer space the way it was meant to be seen in HD. The first day was chaos, cars lined up down the street Ice sold out, everyone was BBQing Some of us were out for 3 days or more. Some of this footage is within the first few hours of when it began

Toronto handled it well, but New York had instant riots.

This is a cool story, but it only references the short term.

I do agree that the majority will not be prepared for such a thing, but thankfully we only need our wealthy, over-prepared elite to do that for us. Thanks to the notions like "someone has to clean the toilets", those well off will have reason to draw others into their safe havens and, in time, will be more likely to set up infrastructure as the baron or mayor of a new era. 

History wouldn't save us and money would become meaningless. No delivery no service no gas, e everything shut down.

The money itself yeah, it'd just be paper, but what they stockpiled with that money would become the gold standard that would let them re-establish civilization from what's left. 

Still we cannot survive in these numbers without our technology. Our survival depends on people working and maintaining current.

Without it? Yeah, that'd be tough. In the hypothetical you posed though, they would not be without it because of our history and the resources stockpiled by the rich and paranoid. 

What resources ? We won't have access to resources, we won't even be able to pump gas, whatever the prepared have, they won't have for everyone. The rich also won't outnumber the masses who actually have emergency rations and other supplies and goods.

Are you trying to tell me that the rich and powerful do not stockpile resources? 

Scarcity is not a chaotic thing plainly, much of it is controlled relative to the bigger picture. It's those who control the flow of resources who will when things turn dark have access to everything and, in turn, will be the ones who'd guide the next stages of history. 

You can bet people with the means would have an edge in seeing Pandemonium coming and would prepare for it in ways that'd let them profit immensely. The Rich Get Richer and the demands would be higher than ever, they could probably even go as far as to reinstate slavery. 

Martial law, people will emergency supplies. Dandy. But there are billions of us.

Well short of miraculous response time from seeing it well enough in advance, obviously the majority of us would not survive, but if you're looking at it more as the survival of the species... 'Life finds a way' and we're too clever through sheer population and the variation within it to just die off. 

None of us has done better than God.

No horse has done better than man and no cart has done better than a car, this means nothing at all to me beyond a division of roles and capabilities. Someone who outclasses us is not exempt from making mistakes, no matter how much His own book insists to us that He cannot. 

There is nothing about this that says to me that God is not making mistakes, and even if He were to pull some sort of "Oh yeah? Well why don't you try it for a few days and see what happens?" like we saw in the movie Bruce Almighty that would not prove that God is Great, simply that God is not Human and therefor Incomparable at a fundamental level. 

It's been said that a DNA strand is so complex, it would take 50 years to write if someone spent 8 hours a day coding it. God would be the prime creator of all things, including space, which is unified with time.

How would you respond to humanity founding something equally complex through technology? 

We never made anything as advanced as a flea. From out current tech, all the way back to the first computers, we can't hold a candle to it. 

That is very up to interpretation. I personally wouldn't say we've never made anything as advanced as the flea so much as I'd say we've never made something truly akin to a flea. Humanity has founded some truly crazy things, but the language they use to design things is not otherwise the same. 

As is we can only imitate life rather than make it from scratch, but that's just right now. I suspect through algorythmic processes that we'll in the future see technology far surpass our preset idea of limitations, even going beyond the limits of God. 

 Once again as written....

"We cannot survive in these numbers without electricity."

I'm saying it wouldn't take much to get the lights back on. 

Science knows this, but Solar storms can fry our grid, it will then take Geez, too long to put it back up.

Do your own research.

My research is why I presume we're too tenacious to die through sheer population and variation. 

You're dunce. Remove yourself from my presence. 

I'm not even attacking you. 

But you did.

It doesn't take much for you to feel under fire, does it? 

How much more do you need me to tone it down for you to be comfortable? 

In a cataclysmic event, the rich are not going to save the majority.

At best they'll take in useful talent. Scientists and engineers. Some military personal and whoever is useful for repopulating and preserving humanity. And their own family's and some friends. If that's what it is, then good for our species.

Golden_Eagle said: 

In a cataclysmic event, the rich are not going to save the majority.

That's why I said the majority would not make it, but they will keep enough of a labor force alive to maintain a more comfortable means of living. 

At best they'll take in useful talent. Scientists and engineers. Some military personal and whoever is useful for repopulating and preserving humanity. And their own family's and some friends. If that's what it is, then good for our species.

You're bringing me back to memories of the game Bioshock over why having nothing but leaders wouldn't work. 

"Someone's gotta scrub the toilets."