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Who believes in karma?


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Karma (Sanskrit, also karman, Pāli: kamma) is a Sanskrit term that literally means "action" or "doing". In the Buddhist tradition, karma refers to action driven by intention (cetanā) which leads to future consequences. Those intentions are considered to be the determining factor in the kind of rebirth in samsara, the cycle of rebirth. Karma leads to future consequences, karma-phala, "fruit of action". Any given action may cause all sorts of results, but the karmic results are only those results which are a consequence of both the moral quality of the action, and of the intention behind the action. The basic idea is that intentional actions, driven by kleshas ("disturbing emotions"), cetanā ("volition"), or taṇhā ("thirst", "craving"), create impressions, tendencies or "seeds" in the mind. These impressions, or "seeds", will ripen into a future result or fruition. If we can overcome our kleshas, then we break the chain of causal effects that leads to rebirth in the six realms. 
The Buddha's teaching of karma is not strictly deterministic, but incorporated circumstantial factors, unlike that of the Jains. It is not a rigid and mechanical process, but a flexible, fluid and dynamic process, and not all present conditions can be ascribed to karma. There is no set linear relationship between a particular action and its results. The karmic effect of a deed is not determined solely by the deed itself, but also by the nature of the person who commits the deed, and by the circumstances in which it is committed.

Karma is also not the same as "fate" or "predestination". Karmic results are not a "judgement" imposed by a God or other all-powerful being, but rather the results of a natural process. Certain experiences in life are the results of previous actions, but our responses to those experiences are not predetermined, although they bear their own fruit in the future. Unjust behaviour may lead to unfavorable circumstances which make it easier to commit more unjust behavior, but nevertheless the freedom not to commit unjust behavior remains.

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I believe in it. Nothing magical about it. Those who go the way of the fool will surely face many grievances. 

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I believe in it as far as people recognizing the passive tells of life archetypes we adopt and shed as we live our lives. 

I responded about it in this topic by quoting this other topic about it earlier: 

Billy said: 
Slay said: 

Why do people like to larp about magical bullshit?

 It makes them feel better not being in control. 

i think of karma as not some magical bullshit but as a result of how you treat people. this has nothing to do with magic. so karma is really just a meme.

 

negative karma will come back to get you because people will fuck you over just like you fucked them over

nothing to do with magic, everything to do with human nature

My perspective on it's similar, but closer to other people on average being half-decent people readers. 

If you spent your life being a thief for instance, comforts and habits fitting of a thief will surface, "The Karma of a Thief". Anyone with the eyes for those sets of traits will smell said thief's "karma" from miles away, and therefor be harder to steal from. Someone who is innocent in that area meanwhile may have less skill for stealing, but when socially analyzed they'd only give it away at most from a bad poker face. 

Karma to me is just what you telegraph based on your comfort zones with behaviors. It's why someone who tries to be "a good and respectable person" can stink of the efforts of responsibility even to people who've never seen them do any good deeds personally. 

Of course with this version of Karma, you can be shat on for being a good person too. Walk through an alley of scammers and cutthroats and they'll smell the karma of naivete, making it more about blending in and not standing out through one's comforts in the familiar. 

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