anymore anyway
better than being in eternal hell and having no true freewill anymore either, is it "freewill" to suffer in horror and despair and helpless torment for eternity ?
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5/12/2022 3:41:51 AM
anyone who genuinely believes that Jesus is God cannot just not take the threat of eternal hell seriously
the people who try to make eternal hell seem like a fine and acceptable alternative to eternal life cannot actually believe that Jesus is God
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Is it "freewill" to suffer in horror and despair and helpless torment for eternity ?
It's not free will itself but it is the price of it in the long run, according to your texts anyway.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
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5/12/2022 3:54:51 AM
anyone who genuinely believes that Jesus is God cannot just not take the threat of eternal hell seriously
The price God asks for I principally disagree with.
the people who try to make eternal hell seem like a fine and acceptable alternative to eternal life cannot actually believe that Jesus is God
It's not that Eternal Hell is fine and acceptable, it's that what God offers is worse and it was His choice to handle it this way. He's God, He could change all of this if He wanted to, yet He does not.
God's also responsible for Hell even being there, alongside creating the conditions that allow over 99% of people to suffer both in life and afterwards. Are we just supposed to forget about that?
It's like worshipping an evil tyrant so that you won't be sent to the gas chamber, it's fairly Holocaustic.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
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5/12/2022 3:59:25 AM
anyone who genuinely believes that Jesus is God cannot just not take the threat of eternal hell seriously
The price God asks for I principally disagree with.
the people who try to make eternal hell seem like a fine and acceptable alternative to eternal life cannot actually believe that Jesus is God
It's not that Eternal Hell is fine and acceptable, it's that what God offers is worse.
but is experiencing hell for eternity really worth the price of "maintaining freewill" ? I guess I do not see how anything obtained by "woooooo freewill" could be worth experiencing hell for eternity, the way that hell is described in the New Testament
I guess I must be more righteous-minded than I previously thought about myself because this statement is true for me, although I am still struggling with sin I have prayed for God to free me from all of my bondage to sins and variations of prayers like that and while he is not answering these prayers instantaneously I do believe that it will happen and possibly even this year, as far as a massive remission in my habitual sinning patterns
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5/12/2022 4:03:35 AM
anyone who genuinely believes that Jesus is God cannot just not take the threat of eternal hell seriously
The price God asks for I principally disagree with.
the people who try to make eternal hell seem like a fine and acceptable alternative to eternal life cannot actually believe that Jesus is God
It's not that Eternal Hell is fine and acceptable, it's that what God offers is worse.
but is experiencing hell for eternity really worth the price of "maintaining freewill"?
As a personal preference, yes.
I would also not choose to be lobotomized to feel better.
I guess I do not see how anything obtained by "woooooo freewill" could be worth experiencing hell for eternity, the way that he'll is described in the New Testament
It's the difference between being alive enough to experience pain, or to shed that in favor of an emptier existence.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
anyone who genuinely believes that Jesus is God cannot just not take the threat of eternal hell seriously
The price God asks for I principally disagree with.
the people who try to make eternal hell seem like a fine and acceptable alternative to eternal life cannot actually believe that Jesus is God
It's not that Eternal Hell is fine and acceptable, it's that what God offers is worse.
but is experiencing hell for eternity really worth the price of "maintaining freewill"?
As a personal preference, yes.
I would also not choose to be lobotomized to feel better.I guess I do not see how anything obtained by "woooooo freewill" could be worth experiencing hell for eternity, the way that he'll is described in the New Testament
It's the difference between being alive enough to experience pain, or to shed that in favor of an emptier existence.
It is weird that you say emptier............ "filled with the holy spirit" is an entirely different experience than feeling empty lol sooo idk
It is probably one of those things that you would have to experience firsthand to be able to understand
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God plans to rid of the damages done by the fruit, that's the point of The Rapture.
I personally think the fruit was good for humanity, and that ridding of it's knowledge is a mistake.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
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5/12/2022 4:07:53 AM
God plans to rid of the damages done by the fruit, that's the point of The Rapture.
what ?
God plans to rid of the damages done by the fruit, that's the point of The Rapture.
what ?
All of these problems for humanity began when the fruit of knowledge of good and evil taught us more than God felt like we should know, and following that humanity has been at the receiving end of God's tantrum over it.
Once The Rapture is done and death is no more, the plan is to render His subjects innocent again. They will not be able to perceive Sin as we can now and will live much plainer lives.
Struggle will be gone, and with it much of culture, art, and wisdom. It's largely a downgrade if you ask me.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
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