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^  This guy although he is a bit materialistic and into his appearance shares the truth of the scriptures pretty well as far as I have seen so far,  if you want to watch this youtube video about what heaven will be like

Believe me I looked into Heaven, it's beings of light, eldritch abominations, and spiritual lobotomies... and mansions I guess. 

Assuming any of us could even get there, 144000 is not that many people. Any Christian you meet is more likely to be a footsoldier during The Rapture who will then live in the New Eden. 

All who call on Jesus's name as Savior and for the forgiveness of all of their sins and the receiving of his imputed righteousness will be saved,  hun

Have you looked into what 'being saved' entails in the long run? 

It's not worth it to me. 

you are misunderstanding that 144,000 passage and many other biblical passages as well,  but if you have never received the holy spirit then you are not going to be able to understand it anyway because 

The text specifically notes that the 144,000 will ascend to heaven to effectively be the generals, commanding those who otherwise follow God's will while not being the best of the best. 

Not everyone gets a mansion, and with what they will be rendered they can't even properly appreciate it anyway. 

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Angels are kinda scary looking in their natural forms tbh, if that's the kind of aesthetic Heaven will have... it'll be a bit Cthulhian. 

 I like that aesthetic. I hope it is like that. 

last edit on 4/29/2022 10:32:33 PM
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sin and death will be done away with,  so everyone will be beautiful and healthy and not have any "toxic" or annoying character traits

Did you ever see the episode of Twilight Zone called 'A Nice Place To Visit'? Post-Rapture is like that, except God lobotomizes everyone who isn't cast into the trashfire first so that they can't get bored with it

Link please? 



Personally, without conflict and wisdom what's even left other than the spiritual equivalent of Morphine? He wants people to lose what seperates them from the animal kingdom, we'd be apes again, more naive than anything we could imagine with our sentience and free will effectively reduced to instinct.

You can have conflict and still be happy overall. Also you can be intelligent and perpetually happy without being an ape, actually apes are not perpetually happy so how would that make us ape like? Also you say apes AGAIN but I assume turq here is a creationist lmfao

 



Also are you a vegetarian? Because without death there will be no meat, or fur, or even Jell-O. There will also be no paper, or any innovations founded by Man, just fields and fruit with nothing to do and no means of getting bored of it. 

That wouldn't be vegetarianism and fruit could not be consumed, as consuming fruit results in the death of cells in fruit, or even vegetables therefore vegetarianism being mentioned in your point is null and void. Also an all powerful god can manifest paper, fur, and other items without need for a dying animal or chopping down a tree, and even then paper can be made of things other than trees or organic matter.

There won't even be fashion, or anything artistic ever again, as we'll have lost the 'shame' that has us bother in the first place.

Shame is not the only reason for art, actually it is a very weird reason for art.



I guess before the fruit of knowledge even Rhinos were ahead of the curve, as even they dress up to impress a mate sometimes. Even Beavers were superior to humans before the fruit changed us, they know to build much more instinctively than we do. 

It isn't that people didn't do those things before the fruit it's that people had no understanding of right or wrong therefore could do no wrong


It's the death of culture, and none too different from The Void. 

 That's an assumption 

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0 votes RE: In eternal life / heaven everyone will be beautiful and healthy

sin and death will be done away with,  so everyone will be beautiful and healthy and not have any "toxic" or annoying character traits

Did you ever see the episode of Twilight Zone called 'A Nice Place To Visit'? Post-Rapture is like that, except God lobotomizes everyone who isn't cast into the trashfire first so that they can't get bored with it

Link please? 

Oh neat, Vimeo has it apparently. 

https://vimeo.com/615755115

Personally, without conflict and wisdom what's even left other than the spiritual equivalent of Morphine? He wants people to lose what seperates them from the animal kingdom, we'd be apes again, more naive than anything we could imagine with our sentience and free will effectively reduced to instinct.

You can have conflict and still be happy overall. Also you can be intelligent and perpetually happy without being an ape, actually apes are not perpetually happy so how would that make us ape like? Also you say apes AGAIN but I assume turq here is a creationist lmfao

Did you not see how many innovations specifically came after Eden? 

God wants to undo it all, back to square one but with more humans. That's the point of The Rapture. 

Also are you a vegetarian? Because without death there will be no meat, or fur, or even Jell-O. There will also be no paper, or any innovations founded by Man, just fields and fruit with nothing to do and no means of getting bored of it. 

That wouldn't be vegetarianism and fruit could not be consumed, as consuming fruit results in the death of cells in fruit, or even vegetables therefore vegetarianism being mentioned in your point is null and void.

Fruit by Christian standards is not alive, and there's past precedent of people eating fruit referenced in the initial Garden of Eden. 

We didn't cut down trees or kill animals, but picking fruit was okay. 

Also an all powerful god can manifest paper, fur, and other items without need for a dying animal or chopping down a tree, and even then paper can be made of things other than trees or organic matter.

He only taught the notion of fur and meat to Mankind after they screwed up their agreement with God, that'd be undone. 

There won't even be fashion, or anything artistic ever again, as we'll have lost the 'shame' that has us bother in the first place.

Shame is not the only reason for art, actually it is a very weird reason for art.

Art is a sublimation for many various feelings, ones that according to passages are liable to go away as a purified soul. 

With no needs there's no true desires. Complexity will give way for streamline simplification of the human experience. Why would we even do Art with what God wants to turn people into, much like asking why we'd even consider clothing anymore. There won't even be ego anymore, so no reason to set themselves apart as Lucifer once did. 

Those of God will be like cattle, shepherded mindlessly. 

I guess before the fruit of knowledge even Rhinos were ahead of the curve, as even they dress up to impress a mate sometimes. Even Beavers were superior to humans before the fruit changed us, they know to build much more instinctively than we do. 

It isn't that people didn't do those things before the fruit it's that people had no understanding of right or wrong therefore could do no wrong

They didn't wear clothes and expressly felt shame after consuming the fruit, and they didn't build anything they just wanted to eat things, name things, and have sex. 

It's the death of culture, and none too different from The Void. 

 That's an assumption 

They go there, it's meant to be as it was before. 

Most everything since then was "Twisted Wisdom". 

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last edit on 4/30/2022 12:20:03 AM
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0 votes RE: In eternal life / heaven everyone will be beautiful and healthy

sin and death will be done away with,  so everyone will be beautiful and healthy and not have any "toxic" or annoying character traits

Did you ever see the episode of Twilight Zone called 'A Nice Place To Visit'? Post-Rapture is like that, except God lobotomizes everyone who isn't cast into the trashfire first so that they can't get bored with it

Link please? 

Oh neat, Vimeo has it apparently. 

https://vimeo.com/615755115

Ooh goody! 😯

Personally, without conflict and wisdom what's even left other than the spiritual equivalent of Morphine? He wants people to lose what seperates them from the animal kingdom, we'd be apes again, more naive than anything we could imagine with our sentience and free will effectively reduced to instinct.

You can have conflict and still be happy overall. Also you can be intelligent and perpetually happy without being an ape, actually apes are not perpetually happy so how would that make us ape like? Also you say apes AGAIN but I assume turq here is a creationist lmfao

Did you not see how many innovations specifically came after Eden? 

God wants to undo it all, back to square one but with more humans. That's the point of The Rapture. 

Biblical evidence?

Also are you a vegetarian? Because without death there will be no meat, or fur, or even Jell-O. There will also be no paper, or any innovations founded by Man, just fields and fruit with nothing to do and no means of getting bored of it. 

That wouldn't be vegetarianism and fruit could not be consumed, as consuming fruit results in the death of cells in fruit, or even vegetables therefore vegetarianism being mentioned in your point is null and void.

Fruit by Christian standards is not alive, and there's past precedent of people eating fruit referenced in the initial Garden of Eden. 

We didn't cut down trees or kill animals, but picking fruit was okay. 

What is your biblical evidence?

Also an all powerful god can manifest paper, fur, and other items without need for a dying animal or chopping down a tree, and even then paper can be made of things other than trees or organic matter.

He only taught the notion of fur and meat to Mankind after they screwed up their agreement with God, that'd be undone. 

That doesn't mean it would be done away with in heaven as the notion of people going to heaven according to Christian theology is commonly thought to have come about after the "apple" as well.

There won't even be fashion, or anything artistic ever again, as we'll have lost the 'shame' that has us bother in the first place.

Shame is not the only reason for art, actually it is a very weird reason for art.

Art is a sublimation for many various feelings, ones that according to passages are liable to go away as a purified soul. 

Biblical evidence?


With no needs there's no true desires. Complexity will give way for streamline simplification of the human experience. Why would we even do Art with what God wants to turn people into, much like asking why we'd even consider clothing anymore. There won't even be ego anymore, so no reason to set themselves apart as Lucifer once did. 

Those of God will be like cattle, shepherded mindlessly. 

Biblical evidence?

I guess before the fruit of knowledge even Rhinos were ahead of the curve, as even they dress up to impress a mate sometimes. Even Beavers were superior to humans before the fruit changed us, they know to build much more instinctively than we do. 

It isn't that people didn't do those things before the fruit it's that people had no understanding of right or wrong therefore could do no wrong

They didn't wear clothes and expressly felt shame after consuming the fruit, and they didn't build anything they just wanted to eat things, name things, and have sex. 

Biblical evidence?

It's the death of culture, and none too different from The Void. 

 That's an assumption 

They go there, it's meant to be as it was before. 

Most everything since then was "Twisted Wisdom". 

 How so?

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0 votes RE: In eternal life / heaven everyone will be beautiful and healthy

Personally, without conflict and wisdom what's even left other than the spiritual equivalent of Morphine? He wants people to lose what seperates them from the animal kingdom, we'd be apes again, more naive than anything we could imagine with our sentience and free will effectively reduced to instinct.

You can have conflict and still be happy overall. Also you can be intelligent and perpetually happy without being an ape, actually apes are not perpetually happy so how would that make us ape like? Also you say apes AGAIN but I assume turq here is a creationist lmfao

Did you not see how many innovations specifically came after Eden? 

God wants to undo it all, back to square one but with more humans. That's the point of The Rapture. 

Biblical evidence?

What, you going to tell me Adam and Eve were a pair of inventors? Look at it all as a timeline, and look at what Adam and Eve were focusing on before they were booted. 

Have you read up on The Rapture? It's insane shit, and you're asking me to quote a lot of it here when it's otherwise plainly written what his desires are when held in conjunction with The Book of Genesis. 

Also are you a vegetarian? Because without death there will be no meat, or fur, or even Jell-O. There will also be no paper, or any innovations founded by Man, just fields and fruit with nothing to do and no means of getting bored of it. 

That wouldn't be vegetarianism and fruit could not be consumed, as consuming fruit results in the death of cells in fruit, or even vegetables therefore vegetarianism being mentioned in your point is null and void.

Fruit by Christian standards is not alive, and there's past precedent of people eating fruit referenced in the initial Garden of Eden. 

We didn't cut down trees or kill animals, but picking fruit was okay. 

What is your biblical evidence?

Book of Genesis covers it fairly well. 

Also an all powerful god can manifest paper, fur, and other items without need for a dying animal or chopping down a tree, and even then paper can be made of things other than trees or organic matter.

He only taught the notion of fur and meat to Mankind after they screwed up their agreement with God, that'd be undone. 

That doesn't mean it would be done away with in heaven as the notion of people going to heaven according to Christian theology is commonly thought to have come about after the "apple" as well.

How will we get meat and fur without death? Wouldn't it be easier to just rid of that so it'd be as it once was: A balanced world without death that manages itself without entropy. 

There won't even be fashion, or anything artistic ever again, as we'll have lost the 'shame' that has us bother in the first place.

Shame is not the only reason for art, actually it is a very weird reason for art.

Art is a sublimation for many various feelings, ones that according to passages are liable to go away as a purified soul. 

Biblical evidence?

...where in the bible it says what art is? 

You going to take this seriously or nah? This was moreso my take on what art is after getting a degree in it. 

Only things about Bible art off the top of my head's their symbology they used to not be killed when it was considered contraband, and how it infected other art influences like that of The Vikings. 

With no needs there's no true desires. Complexity will give way for streamline simplification of the human experience. Why would we even do Art with what God wants to turn people into, much like asking why we'd even consider clothing anymore. There won't even be ego anymore, so no reason to set themselves apart as Lucifer once did. 

Those of God will be like cattle, shepherded mindlessly. 

Biblical evidence?

Do I have to read the entire Bible to you or something..? The people = sheep who should surrender to their Shepherd is practically all throughout. 

God will rid of the mistakes of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, we'll lose our perception of sin and non-sin. How much 'human' will even be left at that point? 

I guess before the fruit of knowledge even Rhinos were ahead of the curve, as even they dress up to impress a mate sometimes. Even Beavers were superior to humans before the fruit changed us, they know to build much more instinctively than we do. 

It isn't that people didn't do those things before the fruit it's that people had no understanding of right or wrong therefore could do no wrong

They didn't wear clothes and expressly felt shame after consuming the fruit, and they didn't build anything they just wanted to eat things, name things, and have sex. 

Biblical evidence?

Book of Genesis again, they go at length. Even in Jewish lore the Lilith factor takes their tale a step further. 

Asking about this has to be facetious, the clothing thing's more classically known by the layman. 

It's the death of culture, and none too different from The Void. 

 That's an assumption 

They go there, it's meant to be as it was before. 

Most everything since then was "Twisted Wisdom". 

 How so?

Look at what The Bible does and doesn't approve of, keep in mind that only those who didn't go to Hell will be left, and God is written as ridding people of former functions they had over being 'of the Earth' that made them capable of sin. 

They will be something... else. 

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