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There are ways out other than assisted suicide.

Cavalier said: 

There are ways out other than assisted suicide.

 Not always.

This is the way out she wants and I support her.

A friend of mine, last year her aunt went to Sweden for that.

Then this year, her uncle went and did it. I only remember the uncle had excruciating stomach pains, cause it happens to me sometimes and when it does it'll be at least 12 hours of suffering. That being said, it's clear to me what I might decide to do if the pain was endless.

It's interesting how we put old pets to sleep, but when we want to die due to intense endless suffering, we can't on the most part. Like animals are treated better. Though I might have heard Canada started the assisted suicide thing. Or will be.

Hawk said: 

A friend of mine, last year her aunt went to Sweden for that.

Then this year, her uncle went and did it. I only remember the uncle had excruciating stomach pains, cause it happens to me sometimes and when it does it'll be at least 12 hours of suffering. That being said, it's clear to me what I might decide to do if the pain was endless.

It's interesting how we put old pets to sleep, but when we want to die due to intense endless suffering, we can't on the most part. Like animals are treated better. Though I might have heard Canada started the assisted suicide thing. Or will be.

 Animals are treated better because we as humans feel control over them. Death is the unknown, and we fear what we don't understand, but controlling it makes that a little easier, but sometimes in the efforts to control the unknown we find ourselves controlling others around us. 

An animal dies, we can control that, let the animal die ourselves in a certain time in a certain way. Even then I see people keeping pets alive that wish to die, like octopus die naturally after they lay eggs by commiting suicide. and there was a man who tried to keep his octopus alive and the octopus killed itself anyway but the man only prolonged it's suffering, he was selfish, feeling entitled to the will of another being. 

But when people want to die that makes us uncomfortable, because somehow it's even scarier to us, because that person can decide for themselves and that makes us feel less control. 

🌺plumeria🌺 said: 

Hawk said: 

A friend of mine, last year her aunt went to Sweden for that.

Then this year, her uncle went and did it. I only remember the uncle had excruciating stomach pains, cause it happens to me sometimes and when it does it'll be at least 12 hours of suffering. That being said, it's clear to me what I might decide to do if the pain was endless.

It's interesting how we put old pets to sleep, but when we want to die due to intense endless suffering, we can't on the most part. Like animals are treated better. Though I might have heard Canada started the assisted suicide thing. Or will be.

 Animals are treated better because we as humans feel control over them. Death is the unknown, and we fear what we don't understand, but controlling it makes that a little easier, but sometimes in the efforts to control the unknown we find ourselves controlling others around us. 

An animal dies, we can control that, let the animal die ourselves in a certain time in a certain way. Even then I see people keeping pets alive that wish to die, like octopus die naturally after they lay eggs by commiting suicide. and there was a man who tried to keep his octopus alive and the octopus killed itself anyway but the man only prolonged it's suffering, he was selfish, feeling entitled to the will of another being. 

But when people want to die that makes us uncomfortable, because somehow it's even scarier to us, because that person can decide for themselves and that makes us feel less control. 

I saw it more as people projecting their own unwillingness to die onto other people, while with an animal many struggle to relate with them in quite the same way. They're always going on about how 'There's more to life than this, you just need to keep trying' and all that, figuring the willingness to die is just a phase. 

Once they get old they cease trying so hard to keep them around though, they become that much more like an animal to a young human's eyes. 

I feel like that towards my uncle. He was an active guy, chopped down trees as a job, he'd always go mushroom hunting and get us some good ones to fry, then got into a car accident and since 2014 has been stuck in a bed, occassionally maybe a chair but still, can't walk, can't really talk, one hand is fucked up, and he wants to die but isn't allowed too. My family keeps him alive, yet I see my own mother have his old ipad and spy on what he says over facebook, even gossiping about it, and it pisses me off.  He posts what foods he misses and what he'd wish he could make and try since he can't eat anymore. 

If I could get away with it, I'd find a means by which to put him out of his misery, as he'll never be able to do anything other than watch shitty tv or absorb himself into the void of the internet via an ipad. He's lived his life, there's not much else to do. 

It's admittedly hard to visit him, since I know how he feels but I can't say anything, I can barely stand to look at him without feeling upset for him, I have no words to say. I have my own mental problems that make it difficult to connect. 

I'd rather die than be a vegetable, and certainly if put into a nursing home forced to live there. Unable to live life. I'd want to die with some dignity. 

I am projecting as I currently don't live as active as a life as I want to, because I'm trying to see about getting my flat feet fixed so that I don't have to feel the insane pain I feel in my circumstance. Obviously, I don't have it as bad as others but I still get depressed because it's hard for me to be as active, especially when pain shoots up my legs and into my lower back. 

Turncoat said: 

🌺plumeria🌺 said: 

Hawk said: 

A friend of mine, last year her aunt went to Sweden for that.

Then this year, her uncle went and did it. I only remember the uncle had excruciating stomach pains, cause it happens to me sometimes and when it does it'll be at least 12 hours of suffering. That being said, it's clear to me what I might decide to do if the pain was endless.

It's interesting how we put old pets to sleep, but when we want to die due to intense endless suffering, we can't on the most part. Like animals are treated better. Though I might have heard Canada started the assisted suicide thing. Or will be.

 Animals are treated better because we as humans feel control over them. Death is the unknown, and we fear what we don't understand, but controlling it makes that a little easier, but sometimes in the efforts to control the unknown we find ourselves controlling others around us. 

An animal dies, we can control that, let the animal die ourselves in a certain time in a certain way. Even then I see people keeping pets alive that wish to die, like octopus die naturally after they lay eggs by commiting suicide. and there was a man who tried to keep his octopus alive and the octopus killed itself anyway but the man only prolonged it's suffering, he was selfish, feeling entitled to the will of another being. 

But when people want to die that makes us uncomfortable, because somehow it's even scarier to us, because that person can decide for themselves and that makes us feel less control. 

I saw it more as people projecting their own unwillingness to die onto other people, while with an animal many struggle to relate with them in quite the same way.

 

Maybe, that would make sense in a way. It's just, I always feel like, it's never up to us you know? It's up to them

They're always going on about how 'There's more to life than this, you just need to keep trying' and all that, figuring the willingness to die is just a phase. 

 

Sometimes it is a phase, this is true 

Once they get old they cease trying so hard to keep them around though, they become that much more like an animal to a young human's eyes. 

 Well, it isn't like that for me, I can relate to my friend extremely well, her and I have a lot in common and we love doing a lot of the same things 

Chaotik said: 

I feel like that towards my uncle. He was an active guy, chopped down trees as a job, he'd always go mushroom hunting and get us some good ones to fry, then got into a car accident and since 2014 has been stuck in a bed, occassionally maybe a chair but still, can't walk, can't really talk, one hand is fucked up, and he wants to die but isn't allowed too.

Oh fuck that, yeah I'm with you on this one if he wants to die that's HIS choice. Not allowed to die. Pathetic.

My family keeps him alive, yet I see my own mother have his old ipad and spy on what he says over facebook, even gossiping about it, and it pisses me off. 

What the fuck, fuck her that's his privacy and his business. If she needs to make sure he's ok fine, but just gossiping about it is annoying

He posts what foods he misses and what he'd wish he could make and try since he can't eat anymore. 

 

Does she use her grand powers of looking at his shit to get him some damn food he wants?

 

If I could get away with it, I'd find a means by which to put him out of his misery, as he'll never be able to do anything other than watch shitty tv or absorb himself into the void of the internet via an ipad. He's lived his life, there's not much else to do. 

Give him some sleeping pills and "warm" him what happens if he takes to many?

Oops.

It's admittedly hard to visit him, since I know how he feels but I can't say anything, I can barely stand to look at him without feeling upset for him, I have no words to say. I have my own mental problems that make it difficult to connect. 

Visit him anyway. Trust me, ignore the hard feelings you have seeing him because the joy he will have from seeing you, is more important. Be there for him.  My Friends family turned their backs on her, and her friends, because she is dying. 

But she needs people to spend time with her.

 

I'd rather die than be a vegetable, and certainly if put into a nursing home forced to live there. Unable to live life. I'd want to die with some dignity. 

Agreed. 

I am projecting as I currently don't live as active as a life as I want to, because I'm trying to see about getting my flat feet fixed so that I don't have to feel the insane pain I feel in my circumstance. Obviously, I don't have it as bad as others but I still get depressed because it's hard for me to be as active, especially when pain shoots up my legs and into my lower back. 

 That's really difficult, I have scoliosis and I am in constant pain and I have a bad hip as well, and so I can relate to what your saying here