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LiYang said: 
LiYang said:
"Freedom" is now Alt-Right

Freedom's always been a right wing buzzword, where the hell have you been? 🤨

Say, can you see
By the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed
At the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars
Through the perilous fight
O'er the ramparts we watched,
Were so gallantly, yeah streaming?
And the rocket's red glare
The bombs bursting in air
Gave proof through the night
That our flag was still there
Oh say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

 

define always

 The story behind the Star Spangled Banner is quite interesting.

It's basically about a US military base that was under attack. The enemy had warships out at sea launching cannons at it all night, trying to shoot down the flag. The soldiers at the base made the effort to ensure their flag won't fall, and probably put it back up as a sign to their attackers. "The dawns early light." illustrates the aftermath and the flag still stood. Then the entire song makes sense in a way it doesn't sound like cheerleaders and firecrackers.

The soldiers made it a point to adjust the flag and keep it standing.

To be fair, the US was already a Republic when they wrote the anthem.

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Freedom has been a rightwing buzzword since the first Republican President Abraham Lincoln, who abolished black slavery, and gave voting and equal opportunity to them.

Today, the Confederate flag is imposed as right wing, and those who wield the flag are labeled as right winged racists.

But the truth in the matter is, the Confederates were democrats. Same with the KKK. They were created as a military arm for the democrats in opposition to freedom for black people. 

Is it alt right to wave a confederate flag and be a racist ? No. Though we've seen political support from racist groups for Trump, that doesn't define their origin or what they are. 

People who know politics, including Klansmen and other supremacy groups. Black Panthers what have you, recognize better policy. That's all.

What do Democrats offer ? In a nutshell, higher taxes, and they are more subservient to corporate interests so big businesses can move production overseas more easily, so less jobs.

Another thing Democrats do, they imply how you are a victim, and by voting them in they will deal with your problems to the best of their ability. But they never deliver.

Both Obama and Biden did not believe in gay marriage while Obama was in office. But since it was a talking point for getting votes for the last 2 elections, they were all for it. The DNC also does the same with black people.

President Lyndon Johnson

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And they do a terrific job, cause blacks and even whites in the US vote Democrat without even knowing why, nor do they know the policy of the rival.

All of that aside, this is what they call alt-right, but nay. Sure we saw a grand dragon support Trump, and we see support from people waving confederate flags. But we also saw people in shithole countries praising Trump. This is not a division of people like it's been made out to be. It's just a broad range of different types of people voting for better policies and less government expansion. 

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Hawk said: 
LiYang said: 
LiYang said:
"Freedom" is now Alt-Right

Freedom's always been a right wing buzzword, where the hell have you been? 🤨

Say, can you see
By the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed
At the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars
Through the perilous fight
O'er the ramparts we watched,
Were so gallantly, yeah streaming?
And the rocket's red glare
The bombs bursting in air
Gave proof through the night
That our flag was still there
Oh say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

 

define always

 The story behind the Star Spangled Banner is quite interesting.

It's basically about a US military base that was under attack. The enemy had warships out at sea launching cannons at it all night, trying to shoot down the flag. The soldiers at the base made the effort to ensure their flag won't fall, and probably put it back up as a sign to their attackers. "The dawns early light." illustrates the aftermath and the flag still stood. Then the entire song makes sense in a way it doesn't sound like cheerleaders and firecrackers.

The soldiers made it a point to adjust the flag and keep it standing.

To be fair, the US was already a Republic when they wrote the anthem.

.

Freedom has been a rightwing buzzword since the first Republican President Abraham Lincoln, who abolished black slavery, and gave voting and equal opportunity to them.

Today, the Confederate flag is imposed as right wing, and those who wield the flag are labeled as right winged racists.

But the truth in the matter is, the Confederates were democrats. Same with the KKK. They were created as a military arm for the democrats in opposition to freedom for black people. 

Is it alt right to wave a confederate flag and be a racist ? No. Though we've seen political support from racist groups for Trump, that doesn't define their origin or what they are. 

People who know politics, including Klansmen and other supremacy groups. Black Panthers what have you, recognize better policy. That's all.

What do Democrats offer ? In a nutshell, higher taxes, and they are more subservient to corporate interests so big businesses can move production overseas more easily, so less jobs.

Another thing Democrats do, they imply how you are a victim, and by voting them in they will deal with your problems to the best of their ability. But they never deliver.

Both Obama and Biden did not believe in gay marriage while Obama was in office. But since it was a talking point for getting votes for the last 2 elections, they were all for it. The DNC also does the same with black people.

President Lyndon Johnson

Posted Image

And they do a terrific job, cause blacks and even whites in the US vote Democrat without even knowing why, nor do they know the policy of the rival.

All of that aside, this is what they call alt-right, but nay. Sure we saw a grand dragon support Trump, and we see support from people waving confederate flags. But we also saw people in shithole countries praising Trump. This is not a division of people like it's been made out to be. It's just a broad range of different types of people voting for better policies and less government expansion

I don't disagree, MAGA! Less government is so much better!

My point is that the idea of freedom is not tied to some Alt-Right group. It;s for all of us, no matter your political orientation.

And to think this is something new is insane. It goes way back to the start of oppression by Kings and before written history. Whenever a people were oppressed by others.

 

and trying to bandwaggon people into thinking Freedom is an Alt-Right bad idea is really for the weak minded.

Freedoms are enjoyed by all that experience them. not just Alt-Right groups. So dumb

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MLK, Jr. “Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed.”

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LiYang said: 
Outro said: 

What's confusing about this?

Surely you recognize the bastardization of the far-right to define freedom as something that inherently infringes upon the freedoms of others.

Freedom isn't an inherently golden principle. Very few would advocate for Nazi Germany's freedom to be rid of Jews. Few would advocate for Russia's freedom to annex Ukraine.

You're being brainwashed by a movement that has identified your gullibility (and entitlement) around the concept of freedom.

I'm honestly beyond talking to you as though you're a rational person. You've been brainwashed by this bullshit, and you'll realize it eventually lol 

 moron thinks Nazi Germany was free.

 I'm hoping that english isn't your first language lol 

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Spatial Mind said:
Freedom has been a rightwing buzzword since the first Republican President Abraham Lincoln, who abolished black slavery, and gave voting and equal opportunity to them.

But the truth in the matter is, the Confederates were democrats. Same with the KKK. They were created as a military arm for the democrats in opposition to freedom for black people.

You can't really think The Right and The Left are still representative of how shit was during Lincoln, it's barely comparable. 

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Outro said: 
LiYang said: 
Outro said: 

What's confusing about this?

Surely you recognize the bastardization of the far-right to define freedom as something that inherently infringes upon the freedoms of others.

Freedom isn't an inherently golden principle. Very few would advocate for Nazi Germany's freedom to be rid of Jews. Few would advocate for Russia's freedom to annex Ukraine.

You're being brainwashed by a movement that has identified your gullibility (and entitlement) around the concept of freedom.

I'm honestly beyond talking to you as though you're a rational person. You've been brainwashed by this bullshit, and you'll realize it eventually lol 

 moron thinks Nazi Germany was free.

 I'm hoping that english isn't your first language lol 

 Using the idea of freedom to kill people is just moronic. It's a weak failed argument.

 

 

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It's interesting. When I talk with right wingers, I see people who did their research. Like myself they weren't told by some leader what to think. It's just common sense and reaching the same conclusion.

On election night, we were here watching it live. We saw a sudden parabolic move to the upside for the Dems and 0 for Republicans within an hour, and we knew it to be voter fraud that very night. That's not to mention how they blocked official observers from monitoring the counting process in many states.

For the left it is all of a sudden possible for Trump to have not gotten a single vote during a landslide vote for Biden. 

When asked, I'd say it would be smarter to have spread out the fake votes over time. That way the impossible would've gone unnoticed.

Now we supposedly have the most voted for man in all of history, in the WH, according to the mainstream programmers.

His approval ratings are very poor.

The left as usual will not get what they want while Biden rules, and they are also very quiet these days. And why are they quiet ? Because they aren't being incited to have tantrums and wreak havoc. The mainstream media and talk shows aren't attacking Trump every single day, so the easily manipulated (who know nothing of policy) will stay chill until further notice.

I can't believe the typical left winger sees someone like me, they way I see them though. To them I must come accross as evil, or spiteful as I've been asked many times, "why would you support him, he's a racist !" 

And I say, Trump delivered. Jobs came pouring in, tax brackets lowered for everyone. The average household had a 12k surplus, and in the grand scheme the government was having better income. List of other things. Tarrifs were also golden cause we'd sell to you, but you had a hard time selling to us.

There's what's actually good. But to the left winger, their psychological programming is more meaningful, so Biden over Trump is satisfactory, despite how unwise of a choice it is.

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Hawk said: 

It's interesting. When I talk with right wingers, I see people who did their research. Like myself they weren't told by some leader what to think. It's just common sense and reaching the same conclusion.

On election night, we were here watching it live. We saw a sudden parabolic move to the upside for the Dems and 0 for Republicans within an hour, and we knew it to be voter fraud that very night. That's not to mention how they blocked official observers from monitoring the counting process in many states.

For the left it is all of a sudden possible for Trump to have not gotten a single vote during a landslide vote for Biden. 

When asked, I'd say it would be smarter to have spread out the fake votes over time. That way the impossible would've gone unnoticed.

Now we supposedly have the most voted for man in all of history, in the WH, according to the mainstream programmers.

His approval ratings are very poor.

The left as usual will not get what they want while Biden rules, and they are also very quiet these days. And why are they quiet ? Because they aren't being incited to have tantrums and wreak havoc. The mainstream media and talk shows aren't attacking Trump every single day, so the easily manipulated (who know nothing of policy) will stay chill until further notice.

I can't believe the typical left winger sees someone like me, they way I see them though. To them I must come accross as evil, or spiteful as I've been asked many times, "why would you support him, he's a racist !" 

And I say, Trump delivered. Jobs came pouring in, tax brackets lowered for everyone. The average household had a 12k surplus, and in the grand scheme the government was having better income. List of other things. Tarrifs were also golden cause we'd sell to you, but you had a hard time selling to us.

There's what's actually good. But to the left winger, their psychological programming is more meaningful, so Biden over Trump is satisfactory, despite how unwise of a choice it is.

I agree.

The Trump racist thing is a Leftist political smear campaign. All you have to do is look at his actual actions. "Opportunity zones" . The left winger is easily manipulated with propaganda.

Trump has gained huge votes in the Black community.

 

The left winger is also easily manipulated with social pressure. They want to be part of the clique. The cool kids club.

They can't stand to be part of a religious Hillbilly Right.

They will destroy themselves and their country before that ever happens.

"Can you imagine being labelled as a Trumper, OMG" lol

You have to have an ego death before that happens.

 

MAGA!

Who can argue with making your country great?!!

 

Trumps not perfect and neither am I. So I vote for people that make prosperity not destruction. Trump is the lesser of two evils by far.

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Since when did people absorb their political preferences into an entire identity? This whole balls deep investment in whether you're "left wing" or "right wing" is pretty pathetic tbh, and I direct that to both sides of the political spectrum. 

Just cast your vote and move on. Get a hobby. Go surfing or something.

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Outro said: 

Since when did people absorb their political preferences into an entire identity? This whole balls deep investment in whether you're "left wing" or "right wing" is pretty pathetic tbh, and I direct that to both sides of the political spectrum. 

Just cast your vote and move on. Get a hobby. Go surfing or something.

 I think most move around the middle away from the extreme right or left. It's just important life changing issues that pop up. like MEDICAL TYRANNY! and digital "health" passports.

"Oh look, your vaccine has expired, you cannot travel or buy food today Mr. Smith"

 

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